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Re:Create No-JavaScript friendly sites by forgotmypw17 on Monday June 22, 2020 @03:06PM (#23604538)
What percentage of city bus riders or public restaurant visitors do you think use the wheelchair ramp?
Re:Create No-JavaScript friendly sites by codegeek on Monday June 22, 2020 @03:19PM (#23604828)
In my opinion, that is not a fair comparison. Wheelchair ramp usage percentage may be small but they are built because of laws and helps people who actually need it. People are not disabled by choice.

Javascript disablers (and I have full sympathy as a dev. myself) are doing it by choice which is totally fine but it is still a choice, not a need.

Re:Create No-JavaScript friendly sites by oAlbe on Monday June 22, 2020 @03:37PM (#23605206)
I would argue that privacy is a need.
Re:Create No-JavaScript friendly sites by hilbert42 on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @06:22AM (#23612018)
"...not a need"

By what criterion do you define a need? I've suggested some in my post that could easily be deemed a necessary requirement to require JavaScript to be turn off. It depends on one's circumstances.

Re:Create No-JavaScript friendly sites by eeZah7Ux on Monday June 22, 2020 @06:12PM (#23607481)
A lot of visually-impared users have to disable javascript to minimize pop-ups to use a braille terminal.
Re:Create No-JavaScript friendly sites by lazyjones on Monday June 22, 2020 @08:36PM (#23608714)
Don't expect typical web developers to care for 1-2% blind users when they've often ignored browsers with 5% or higher market share... Most don't understand that a one-time effort to get the last few % in revenue is worth it.
Re:Create No-JavaScript friendly sites by janpot on Monday June 22, 2020 @03:17PM (#23604770)
What percentage of people in wheelchairs are able to walk but choose not to?
Re:Create No-JavaScript friendly sites by a1369209993 on Monday June 22, 2020 @03:59PM (#23605607)
Counting people with a broken leg who could use crutches but would be risk of further injuries due to avoidable things like falling over? More than the zero percent of people with javascript disabled who don't need either security or privacy.
Re:Create No-JavaScript friendly sites by 1v1id on Monday June 22, 2020 @03:19PM (#23604816)
There's a difference between a small percentage needing something and a small percentage wanting something, though. If all wheelchair users could turn off their handicap at any time with no consequence, I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a wheelchair ramp anywhere.
Re:Create No-JavaScript friendly sites by oAlbe on Monday June 22, 2020 @03:41PM (#23605273)
If all JavaScript blockers users could turn on JavaScript at any time without consequences to their privacy and security, you'd be hard pressed to find JavaScript blockers as well.
Re:Create No-JavaScript friendly sites by viklove on Monday June 22, 2020 @05:13PM (#23606751)
If they're really concerned about privacy and security, their machine would be air-gapped and the web wouldn't even be available as an attack vector. What it really is though is a superiority complex fulfilling their need to be "better" then filthy JS developers who don't code in Rust and Scala.
Re:Create No-JavaScript friendly sites by mdoms on Monday June 22, 2020 @03:10PM (#23604627)
If I have a client requirement that calls for a high degree of accessibility this obviously changes my approach. I'm talking about things I make for myself, or for clients with less stringent requirements. Same argument goes for the IE crowd.
Re:Create No-JavaScript friendly sites by johncolanduoni on Monday June 22, 2020 @03:17PM (#23604772)
Screenreaders (including free and built in ones) have had JS support for quite a while. Using JS is very far from being the limiting factor for robust accessibility.
Re:Create No-JavaScript friendly sites by tartoran on Monday June 22, 2020 @04:20PM (#23605955)
I wonder who bothers to test their wonderful experience product on a screenreader. Regardless of this and regardless of the security threat JS execution poses, I find it hard to use the internet with JS disabled. However, when it comes to SPAs, I find that I like the older version of the website way more and also find it a whole lot more intuitive and usable.
Re:Create No-JavaScript friendly sites by dariosalvi78 on Monday June 22, 2020 @04:10PM (#23605793)
TBH this comparison is a bit offensive. One can choose to use JS or not, those who are no a wheelchair cannot choose to walk.