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Re:Patagonia joins growing list of companies boycotting Face... by na85 on Monday June 22, 2020 @12:23PM (#23602016)
Corporations aren't people for the purposes of discrimination.
Re:Patagonia joins growing list of companies boycotting Face... by sukilot on Monday June 22, 2020 @12:38PM (#23602242)
Corporations don't wear jackets. People do.
Re:Patagonia joins growing list of companies boycotting Face... by akiselev on Monday June 22, 2020 @12:53PM (#23602491)
People are free to buy a Patagonia jacket and sew their company logo to it. Patagonia, on the other hand, is free to protect their brand which - if the comments in this thread are any indication - is a big part of their competitive advantage.
Re:Patagonia joins growing list of companies boycotting Face... by PascLeRasc on Monday June 22, 2020 @12:48PM (#23602411)
The people aren't individually banned from Patagonia. Patagonia just won't sell to the corporation.
Re:Patagonia joins growing list of companies boycotting Face... by bronco21016 on Monday June 22, 2020 @12:29PM (#23602103)
What does that even mean? So it’s ok for corporations to discriminate?

Maybe I missed the /sarcasm?

Re:Patagonia joins growing list of companies boycotting Face... by mrkurt on Monday June 22, 2020 @12:31PM (#23602128)
I think they mean: discriminating against corporations is entirely different than discriminating against people.
Re:Patagonia joins growing list of companies boycotting Face... by xhkkffbf on Monday June 22, 2020 @12:41PM (#23602294)
Except many corporations aren't particularly diverse. Discriminating against the NBA is going end up being pretty racially focused.
Re:Patagonia joins growing list of companies boycotting Face... by AlexandrB on Monday June 22, 2020 @01:45PM (#23603244)
Ok, I'll bite. Have you looked at who actually owns NBA teams? It's mostly a bunch of white dudes[1]. So discriminating against the NBA as an organization would be discriminating against a bunch of white guys. Nobody is boycotting the individual employees here.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_the_NBA#...

Re:Patagonia joins growing list of companies boycotting Face... by 6AA4FD on Monday June 22, 2020 @01:26PM (#23602972)
https://careers.nba.com/employees/ this list might be cherry-picked, but this looks like a pretty (at least racially/phenotypically) diverse list of people. I assume you are actually thinking about NBA teams, but I wanted to bring this up to make the point that the NBA organization is not necessarily controlled by by a group of people representative of the players that you would rightly associate with it.
Re:Patagonia joins growing list of companies boycotting Face... by bravoetch on Monday June 22, 2020 @01:38PM (#23603135)
> Discriminating against the NBA is going end up being pretty racially focused.

To address your example, let's pretend that the NBA announces they no longer recycle. Then my business that sells cardboard boxes to the NBA announces in response that we will no longer sell boxes to the NBA. If you think that has anything to do with racism - I'm open to hearing it.

Re:Patagonia joins growing list of companies boycotting Face... by bricklebush on Monday June 22, 2020 @02:42PM (#23603981)
I think a trouble is that, in this day and age it seems that the outcome is what determines racism, sexism, ageism, etc. We're obsessed with the statistics.

If someone examined your company and found that you now only sold boxes to sports teams that are predominantly white - that would look quite racist would it not? I don't think the details or your intentions would matter much.

Re:Patagonia joins growing list of companies boycotting Face... by bravoetch on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @04:33PM (#23694460)
I don't think anyone would think that, because my policy is only to sell to teams that recycle. The details and intentions do matter. At a stretch, I can imagine a scenario where recycling companies were for some reason not giving people of color fair access, and that as a result they were being hurt down the chain by my business not supporting them now. Those are the kinds of systems we need to work to identify and change and they do exist.
Re:Patagonia joins growing list of companies boycotting Face... by mrkurt on Monday June 22, 2020 @07:19PM (#23608099)
"In this day and age" we can distinguish between someone being racist and systemic racism.