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Re:ARM Mac Impact on Intel by Nullabillity on Monday June 22, 2020 @03:40AM (#23598038)
Yet Apple can't even make a working keyboard.
Re:ARM Mac Impact on Intel by Cthulhu_ on Monday June 22, 2020 @03:50AM (#23598091)
They can, they just compromised on an overengineered but stupid design so that they could shave off half a mm on their laptop thickness.
Re:ARM Mac Impact on Intel by foldr on Monday June 22, 2020 @08:24AM (#23599397)
Butterfly keyboard works fine for me. It's actually my favorite MacBook keyboard so far.
Re:ARM Mac Impact on Intel by turtlebits on Monday June 22, 2020 @02:35PM (#23603901)
Agreed. I have both the 2019 16" and 2018 15" side by side, I greatly prefer the butterfly keyboard.
Re:ARM Mac Impact on Intel by neilalexander on Monday June 22, 2020 @04:22AM (#23598228)
They made working keyboards for years and have gone back to doing so. The bit in the middle was a blip.
Re:ARM Mac Impact on Intel by m463 on Monday June 22, 2020 @04:34AM (#23598283)
nah. the "gone back" wasn't far enough. I liked say the first generation macbook pro, with concave keys and longer throw (although the creaky case was not as nice as the sculpted aluminum ones)

I had a friend with an old old powerbook and the key shape reminded me of a thinkpad.

They can do it, but the flat short throw keys are too form over function.

Re:ARM Mac Impact on Intel by wlll on Monday June 22, 2020 @07:10AM (#23598990)
I still use a 2014 era Apple wireless keyboard and prefer it over any of the mechanical variants I’ve tried. Key travel distance is a personal metric.
Re:ARM Mac Impact on Intel by m463 on Monday June 22, 2020 @07:38AM (#23599128)
the first macbook pro didn't have THAT long a throw.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/MacBook_...

Re:ARM Mac Impact on Intel by wlll on Monday June 22, 2020 @10:23AM (#23600490)
Right, I had that mac and the KB was fine, as is the 2014 wireless model I have, despice neother being long throw. I'm fine with short throw, it's a preference.

The 2016 keyboard fiasco was too far for me though, and even now with my 16" 2019 mac with the "fixed" keyboard, I still prefer the wireless 2014 model, or the KB from my 2014 MBP.

Re:ARM Mac Impact on Intel by ArgyleSound on Monday June 22, 2020 @06:00AM (#23598669)
I, for one, prefer a keyboard that is comfortable to type on even if doesn’t have the greatest travel over a significantly thicker laptop.
Re:ARM Mac Impact on Intel by rorykoehler on Monday June 22, 2020 @08:03AM (#23599267)
I’ve had many macs and all the keyboards have been best in class. I just skipped buying a model with the bad keyboard. That was made possible by the fact that their laptops have serious longevity so I could just hold onto machine until they fixed it.