ARM Mac Impact on Intel

Re:ARM Mac Impact on Intel by jjcm on Monday June 22, 2020 @02:13AM (#23597679)

With geekbench scores, the A13 is outperforming some mobile i7 processors: https://gadgetversus.com/processor/intel-core-i7-8565u-vs-ap....

With a new A14 chip combined with intel stagnation, it wouldn't be too crazy to see a 50-100% increase, especially if you looked at multi-core scores.

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Re:ARM Mac Impact on Intel by vardump on Monday June 22, 2020 @03:35AM (#23598021)

While I certainly agree A13 is a fast chip, the more I've compared Geekbench scores the less convinced I am that the results can be compared between platforms.

Also first i7 chip was released in 2008. (The chip you refer to appears to be modern though, from 2018.)

To prevent any misunderstandings, I agree A13 has performance comparable to a modern laptop. I just don't think Geekbench is a right tool to measure that difference.

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Re:ARM Mac Impact on Intel by strictnein on Monday June 22, 2020 @02:30AM (#23597763)

> Geekbench 4 - Multi-core & single core score - iOS & Android 64-bit

What does that even mean? The Intel platform is running Android?

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Re:ARM Mac Impact on Intel by FractalParadigm on Monday June 22, 2020 @03:04AM (#23597907)

It's entirely possible they installed Android on the Intel platform. Unlikely, but possible.

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Re:ARM Mac Impact on Intel by neurostimulant on Monday June 22, 2020 @06:31AM (#23598811)

I had an Intel x86 Android phone from Asus a while ago, complete with Intel Inside logo on the back case. Not sure if they still sell x86 phones these days though.

https://www.gsmarena.com/asus_zenfone_2_ze551ml-6917.php

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Re:ARM Mac Impact on Intel by lostmsu on Monday June 22, 2020 @02:51AM (#23597866)

I assume the tests are same regardless of platform.

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Re:ARM Mac Impact on Intel by kllrnohj on Monday June 22, 2020 @12:58PM (#23602585)

They aren't, though. Compare windows vs. linux geekbench scores of identical hardware, they are extremely different:

Linux: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/2638097 Windows: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/2635048

Geekbench is a terrible benchmark.

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Re:ARM Mac Impact on Intel by wizee on Monday June 22, 2020 @05:25PM (#23606916)

You cherry picked a terrible example. Here are some more Windows examples with the same chip: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/2628613 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/2628613

In my own personal experience, running Geekbench on many machines, Geekbench scores are pretty close running between Windows and Linux on the same machine. At least for compiling code (my main use for powerful machines), their compilation benchmark numbers also fairly closely match compilation times I observe.

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Re:ARM Mac Impact on Intel by lostmsu on Monday June 22, 2020 @06:04PM (#23607415)

Your links are identical.

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Re:ARM Mac Impact on Intel by dispat0r on Monday June 22, 2020 @02:39AM (#23597804)

50-100% seems a little high. I think Apple has picked the low hanging fruit. This kind of performance increase is only possible in multicore workloads. Single core would be more like 20-30%. But maybe they can increase clock speeds with the new 5nm node.

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Re:ARM Mac Impact on Intel by darkteflon on Monday June 22, 2020 @02:51AM (#23597863)

They’ll be working with a more forgiving thermal envelope than in iOS devices too, though.

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