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Re:Night owls have more grey matter in their brains than ear... by DaiPlusPlus on Sunday June 14, 2020 @05:06PM (#23521379)
> You employ licensed caregivers to yell at you in the morning?

Yes. I use sites like Care.com and WellBeyondCare.com to find them.

> Are you implying you are paying a nurse to open your door and yell at you "get out of bed sleepyhead?"

They aren’t nurses. The going rate for a caregiver in the US is only slightly above minimum-wage which is awful - especially considering the “human” value of the work they do for us and our loved-ones.

> Or is your insurance paying?

I pay for it myself. A good chunk of my income is 1099-based and my CPA said I can deduct my caregiving expenses as a business expense because without their help I wouldn’t be working anywhere near as many hours as I do otherwise.

I pay them $30-35/hr - with a 1-hour minimum. They pay for themselves as far as I’m concerned.

> Do they actually drive to your house and do this?

Yes. They come-by around 6-7am and spend about 15-30 minutes with me before they go off to their main day job, so I imagine it’s a nice little (easy!) side-gig for them.

> Do they do anything else for you?

I’ve had a few that stayed for a full hour - they’d make me a proper cooked breakfast while I’m spending 20+ minutes just waking up in the shower.

...it’s like living with my parents again.

My generation likes to joke about “bed gravity” but it’s a real problem :/

Re:Night owls have more grey matter in their brains than ear... by RickS on Sunday June 14, 2020 @07:40PM (#23522424)
This is so great. I've considered it many times. Do these people offer help with administrative tasks as well? Sites like upwork and taskrabbit haven't really delivered. (edit: looks like you're in Redmond. I'm in Seattle, so local tips are welcome)

I spent the last two years mulling over hiring an assistant, and told a friend I had $1000/mo for this in a heartbeat. Got in a fender bender without insurance (I could afford it, just never got the paperwork together), and my friend pointed out that had I gotten the assistant, they would have paid for themselves merely by mitigating the cost of that one incident.

I can totally relate to how this seemingly absurd expense is an absolute no-brainer for people like us.

Re:Night owls have more grey matter in their brains than ear... by DaiPlusPlus on Sunday June 14, 2020 @09:54PM (#23523103)
> Do these people offer help with administrative tasks as well?

Some of them do - you need to ask around. Every one of them has been lovely to me, but some are more capable of administrative and PA work than others - consider that most of them usually do work like being an orderly or care-assistant in a care home, for example).

But give it a go! You can mention in your job posting that you’re wanting to give it a try for a week at first and take it from there, for example.

No special paperwork is needed as far as I know - as it’s not the same as having a domestic-employee like a live-in nanny or au-pair.

Re:Night owls have more grey matter in their brains than ear... by jkhdigital on Sunday June 14, 2020 @07:28PM (#23522351)
Shortly after getting diagnosed ADHD at age 34 (same as you, no hyperactivity just motivation dysfunction) I tried out some ADHD coaches and found that it was a total waste of time and money because they weren’t physically present, telling me to my face the what/when/where of my day. What you’re describing sounds like exactly what I really needed, but I don’t currently have the income to support an expense like that unfortunately. Maybe in 5-10 years...
Re:Night owls have more grey matter in their brains than ear... by DaiPlusPlus on Sunday June 14, 2020 @10:28PM (#23523227)
I do pay far more than the going-rate, and it is 5-6 days in the week. You could give it a try for much less and still pay more than the prevailing wage for caregiver work and have it for 1 or 2 days in the week and see if it works for you.
Re:Night owls have more grey matter in their brains than ear... by balfirevic on Sunday June 14, 2020 @11:37PM (#23523536)
Do you find that medication helps (if you use it)?
Re:Night owls have more grey matter in their brains than ear... by kortex on Monday June 15, 2020 @10:37AM (#23527769)
Not GP but I've found medication is the difference between "adulting" okayish and not adulting at all (bills slip by, staying focused on work is excruciating, house looks like a tornado hit).

I've also found I'm a hyper-metabolizer. Ritalin lasts about 90 minutes before crash, amphetamine about 6h, and straterra just makes me derp. There's a hysteresis effect to the crashes - topping off with more IR isn't the same as preventing a crash.

Current protocol is 15 mg Vyvanse (yes the dexamph prodrug that's supposed to last all day) when I get up around 9, another 15mg around 1300. And actually thinking about switching to 3x. All in an effort to get a really stable blood plasma. Otherwise, I turn into a zombie and can't make dinner.

Still a struggle, and side effects abound, but well worth it.

Re:Night owls have more grey matter in their brains than ear... by DaiPlusPlus on Monday June 15, 2020 @09:11PM (#23534934)
Only 15mg lisdex? 40mg is the typical dose for adults.
Re:Night owls have more grey matter in their brains than ear... by jkhdigital on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @06:26PM (#23557545)
Yes, it took some experimentation but we (my psychiatrist and I) have found that Vyvanse works quite well. It’s not a perfect solution, but it makes daily life a bit more predictable than when I am left to my own devices. I actually found that microdosing psychedelics was the best medication, but unfortunately I don’t have a steady source for that.
Re:Night owls have more grey matter in their brains than ear... by GEBBL on Sunday June 14, 2020 @05:20PM (#23521493)
This is shocking! You spend about $700 a month just to be woken up?

I can’t get my head round this at all.

Re:Night owls have more grey matter in their brains than ear... by DaiPlusPlus on Sunday June 14, 2020 @05:33PM (#23521585)
Probably closer to $1000/mo, actually.

But as I said - it literally pays for itself: say my time is worth $100/hr[1] and paid on an IRS 1099 schedule - so it’s a deductible expense. The extra 3-4 hours it gets me ($300-400) is worth the $35 opportunity cost, because that’s $5,000+ extra monthly income - so minus the $1000 as a pre-tax deductible business expense then that’s $4000 I wouldn’t have had otherwise.

Spreadsheets don’t lie!

Even if I was paid on a W-2 basis, I could probably pay for it using pre-tax money from my HSA - though that would sap all of my HSA contributions though.

[1]: Why yes, I do live on the US west-coast.

Re:Night owls have more grey matter in their brains than ear... by treeman79 on Sunday June 14, 2020 @11:37PM (#23523530)
Have considered hiring someone to sit behind me, just to keep me on task.

Adderal did a great job “teaching” me to stay on task. I do alright without it now, but energy level is just too low.

Diet definitely makes a huge difference. Carbs are evil. Audio books for when I need to do chores.

Re:Night owls have more grey matter in their brains than ear... by redis_mlc on Sunday June 14, 2020 @06:01PM (#23521745)
1) Fascinating.

2) You could probably get a movie deal.

Re:Night owls have more grey matter in their brains than ear... by DaiPlusPlus on Sunday June 14, 2020 @07:02PM (#23522172)
> You could probably get a movie deal

I imagine a film about kind middle-aged ladies bringing coffee to a young, possibly hungover, technology worker who suffocates on his own pillow at night would not make for good entertainment.

Re:Night owls have more grey matter in their brains than ear... by koolba on Sunday June 14, 2020 @07:28PM (#23522353)
Or it’d be a hit. Could probably frame it as a remake of As Good As It Gets: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_Good_as_It_Gets
Re:Night owls have more grey matter in their brains than ear... by rmason on Monday June 15, 2020 @12:05AM (#23523686)
I could see the guy falling for one of the ladies who wake him up. Quirky but it might be a romcom that could work.
Re:Night owls have more grey matter in their brains than ear... by ponker on Sunday June 14, 2020 @09:24PM (#23522964)
I see you’re not a screenwriter. As Good as it Gets, Harold and Maude, etc.
Re:Night owls have more grey matter in their brains than ear... by netsharc on Sunday June 14, 2020 @05:27PM (#23521552)
I've wanted to wake up at 5AM for the last... maybe 5 years, so I could do side projects before work; but I've always ended up waking up at the latest time where I can shower, get dressed and take the bus to work so I'm not late to the daily status meeting. Being able to have that 3 more hours every day is probably worth some money.

Although 5 years of that service (let's say minus the time I'd be on vacation) is about $40000...

Re:Night owls have more grey matter in their brains than ear... by abiogenesis on Sunday June 14, 2020 @10:53PM (#23523340)
Make a baby, or adopt. Much cheaper way to wake up early.
Re:Night owls have more grey matter in their brains than ear... by abalashov on Monday June 15, 2020 @01:53AM (#23524198)
And, as I’ve learnt, a much more expensive way to do anything else whatsoever. :-)
Re:Night owls have more grey matter in their brains than ear... by ghostbrainalpha on Monday June 15, 2020 @07:08PM (#23534132)
But defeats the purpose of having MORE time for a side project.

Babies are the side project destroyers.

Re:Night owls have more grey matter in their brains than ear... by balfirevic on Sunday June 14, 2020 @05:57PM (#23521722)
Have you considered (or perhaps tried) sleeping until you naturally wake up? Also, if you don't mind: do yo need to be awake at such early hours or do you just not want to spend more time sleeping than you currently do?
Re:Night owls have more grey matter in their brains than ear... by DaiPlusPlus on Sunday June 14, 2020 @06:38PM (#23521997)
> Have you considered (or perhaps tried) sleeping until you naturally wake up?

Yes - I'll sleep-in for up to 12 hours, sometimes more - which then means I won't feel tired until ~6am the following morning - or later, and then I end-up with a strange 36-hour body-clock in my head while my body feels bad.

> do yo need to be awake at such early hours or do you just not want to spend more time sleeping than you currently do?

With my current job I don't need to be up at a certain time, but I actually feel sad and it lowers my self-esteem if I sleep through daylight hours - and on the times when I miraculously do wake-up naturally at sunrise I feel a kind of satisfaction with myself.

Even so, I'm still not actually all-that productive in the mornings until the afternoon (which makes it a good time for meetings!), but I'd rather be slightly less productive than feel sad and depressed.

Re:Night owls have more grey matter in their brains than ear... by balfirevic on Sunday June 14, 2020 @11:35PM (#23523519)
You seem to be more extreme version of me in that regard :) I'll sleep for 9-10 hours and end up on a 25-26 hour rhythm.

I can get myself to 24-hour rhythm with melatonin, which I do, but it doesn't reduce amount of sleep I need so I'm left with a shortened day.

Unfortunately, after getting used to waking up without alarm, I find getting up forcefully really painful. And I doubt it would help productivity much, because I'd be half-zombie if I do it more than 2 days in a row.

Re:Night owls have more grey matter in their brains than ear... by weaksauce on Sunday June 14, 2020 @08:06PM (#23522576)
have you tried camping to reset your circadian rhythm? i find that after camping there is a really good reset that lasts a while.
Re:Night owls have more grey matter in their brains than ear... by DaiPlusPlus on Sunday June 14, 2020 @10:10PM (#23523161)
I hate camping! :)
Re:Night owls have more grey matter in their brains than ear... by kortex on Monday June 15, 2020 @10:28AM (#23527681)
> ...it’s like living with my parents again.

PaaS: Parents-as-a-Service.

I'm not totally joking about this. Someone get on this.