Unless someone's seen a study on this, neither of you is more right than the other.

Some will hear nothing more than 'not a diamond', and some will say 'you wasted how much'.

What're you going to do, if you're even thinking about it you're obviously set on her, so it only matters how she feels about them to the extent that you know!

> Unless someone's seen a study on this, neither of you is more right than the other.

Well, if one person makes a blanket statement about all individuals in a group, and the other disproves that with a single individual to which the statement does not apply, one of them clearly is more right than the other.

Ok he should have said "many" or "most" : does it change the underlying face behind his statement ?

I don't have any statistics, but it seems obvious the group of women desiring diamonds is bigger (to say the least) than the group of women not interested by them.

Without generalization there can be no reasoning, because you can always find outliers that disprove any claim.

>I don't have any statistics, but it seems obvious that

So no, (1) you don't have any data, to even say "most" women do, and (2) that's not what the guy I replied to said, he said "all" women.

For some people receiving an expensive jewelry is a more meaningful experience that going trips through Europe. Every person is different...

Yeah, some people are really brain washed.

“Explain that to his girlfriend, or any girl you’ve ever been with.”

“Bold statement to make about 3,500,000,000 people”

Wow... you must have very busy tinder profile. :D

I guess I was being a little tongue in cheek, but I’m mostly implying the discussion is not as simple as ‘hey this is really expensive, what about this cheaper alternative’. It’s a delicate thing because for many people it’s one of four things they probably dreamt about their whole life - marriage, ring, baby, house. There’s a lot of emotion behind all of it.

I’d love to be able to convince her that the ring money would do great in a Vanguard fund instead :p.

Edit: Looks like I have to put this disclaimer, for many people the things I listed above are milestones (not for all).

It's pretty offensive to assume that women just want "marriage, ring, baby, house"

Yes! There is money too

Let’s leave the misogyny somewhere else. Ideally nowhere, but definitely not here.

Well, you don't put emphasis on the price. I recently got my wife some diamond earrings. I would have bought her mined diamonds, but was considering lab produced stones. What is the difference? The difference is that lab stones are essentially "organic" diamonds - they cut out the suffering and corruption (pesticides) from the production of something nice. She liked the idea of getting a product that is part of an ethical supply chain. I enjoyed getting a nicer stones for half the price.