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A comment on Ask HN: Is there a whole universe of Chinese software that we don't see?.

Re:Ask HN: Is there a whole universe of Chinese software tha... by mtmail on Tuesday June 09, 2020 @09:03PM (#23472757)
Eye-opening to me was browsing https://eu.alibabacloud.com/ We talk a lot about Google Cloud, AWS, Azure and smaller ones like Digital Ocean, Linode and such but Alibabacloud I hardly if ever see articles or tutorials about.
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Re:Ask HN: Is there a whole universe of Chinese software tha... by _-___________-_ on Tuesday June 09, 2020 @10:10PM (#23473163)
Picture AWS with the names of the services slightly changed, a lot more spelling mistakes, and a lot more "something went wrong" when you try to use the console, and you've pretty much got the Alibaba Cloud experience ;)
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Re:Ask HN: Is there a whole universe of Chinese software tha... by chiyc on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @09:04PM (#23484152)
I used Alibaba Cloud once for a project on behalf of a China-based customer. The one thing I appreciated most about it was that the service names just describe what they do.
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Re:Ask HN: Is there a whole universe of Chinese software tha... by dylz on Tuesday June 09, 2020 @09:54PM (#23473054)
Huawei Cloud and a few others are also quite massive, but signup is so insanely difficult (+ "Real Verification" bullshit) that if you're a foreigner you just wouldn't bother.
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Re:Ask HN: Is there a whole universe of Chinese software tha... by nucleardog on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @02:40AM (#23474580)
Not that it changes the situation, but in case anyone's not aware that's due to government regulations[0].

You need the same licenses if you want to sign up for AWS's Chinese regions as well.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICP_license

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Re:Ask HN: Is there a whole universe of Chinese software tha... by scarmig on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @05:08AM (#23475242)
Signup has some additional friction, but it amounts to taking a photo of your ID and waiting 24 hours. Insanely difficult is overstating it quite a bit.
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Re:Ask HN: Is there a whole universe of Chinese software tha... by cachvico on Tuesday June 09, 2020 @10:54PM (#23473424)
Tencent also - https://intl.cloud.tencent.com/
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