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Re:The Impending Doom of Expiring Root CAs and Legacy Clients by koolba on Monday June 08, 2020 @10:33AM (#23456802)
Never add your WiFi credentials you your TV. It doesn’t let you remove them so you’re only option is to create a “dummy” network (ex: phone as a hotspot) and switch to it.

Also, watch out for clueless^helpful friends and relatives who try to “fix” your TV’s WiFi.

Re:The Impending Doom of Expiring Root CAs and Legacy Clients by syshum on Monday June 08, 2020 @01:41PM (#23458749)
This is why you segment out your WiFi, I have 4 SSID's

1. Normal Traffic

2. Guest

3. Security Devices (Camera's, and other Home Automation)

4. Media Devices (Roku, FireTV, Smart TV's, etc)

media devices only have access to my home Plex server and the internet nothing else

Re:The Impending Doom of Expiring Root CAs and Legacy Clients by hanklazard on Monday June 08, 2020 @07:30PM (#23461948)
Yeah, VLANs work for a TV that is only trying to connect to your network, but doesn't deal with the case of a TV that will connect to any open SSID (a case that at least one other commenter in this thread claims is already occurring). It wouldn't be difficult to have the TV check different open networks if it's not able to reach a server due to a firewall config on the home network. For anyone living in a relatively dense city, this could be a problem.
Re:The Impending Doom of Expiring Root CAs and Legacy Clients by dsl on Monday June 08, 2020 @02:53PM (#23459553)
I just have a GLiNet travel router I picked up for $20 that is open and not connected to anything. Any "smart" devices get connected to that so they can talk to each other but not the internet.
Re:The Impending Doom of Expiring Root CAs and Legacy Clients by DoofusOfDeath on Monday June 08, 2020 @01:24PM (#23458565)
IIUC, you're saying there's no obvious way to make the TV stop using the Wifi network once you tell it the SSID + password.

Couldn't you just change the wifi password?

Re:The Impending Doom of Expiring Root CAs and Legacy Clients by vetinari on Monday June 08, 2020 @03:51PM (#23460073)
It will continue trying to connect to your SSID. Failing of course, but it will still pollute your channel with garbage packets.
Re:The Impending Doom of Expiring Root CAs and Legacy Clients by hanklazard on Monday June 08, 2020 @04:08PM (#23460217)
I really wish I could just remove the wifi chip. I'm tempted to take the rear panel off just to see if it's reasonably accessible.
Re:The Impending Doom of Expiring Root CAs and Legacy Clients by DaiPlusPlus on Monday June 08, 2020 @05:40PM (#23461107)
Or just snip the antenna
Re:The Impending Doom of Expiring Root CAs and Legacy Clients by DoofusOfDeath on Monday June 08, 2020 @05:52PM (#23461214)
<fantasy> Or just keep hitting company officers with a tire iron until they fix it. </fantasy>
Re:The Impending Doom of Expiring Root CAs and Legacy Clients by abiogenesis on Tuesday June 09, 2020 @12:03AM (#23463525)
Put it in a faraday cage.
Re:The Impending Doom of Expiring Root CAs and Legacy Clients by gindely on Monday June 08, 2020 @11:03AM (#23457092)
(ot: should that be clueless^Whelpful, or is there some new convention I'm not aware of? ^ still means "ctrl" right?)
Re:The Impending Doom of Expiring Root CAs and Legacy Clients by castillar76 on Monday June 08, 2020 @02:23PM (#23459213)
It's an old Unix convention: ^W (Ctrl-w) would remove a word using the Emacs keybindings. So in place of striking out a word, you'd put ^W and the replacement, as you would when typing it out ("clueless...err, no, wait...ctrl-W...HELPFUL").
Re:The Impending Doom of Expiring Root CAs and Legacy Clients by Drdrdrq on Monday June 08, 2020 @04:28PM (#23460413)
Gp missed "w".
Re:The Impending Doom of Expiring Root CAs and Legacy Clients by gkop on Monday June 08, 2020 @11:09AM (#23457154)
Re:The Impending Doom of Expiring Root CAs and Legacy Clients by gindely on Monday June 08, 2020 @11:39AM (#23457483)
If true, that would be logical and fair.
Re:The Impending Doom of Expiring Root CAs and Legacy Clients by koolba on Monday June 08, 2020 @12:32PM (#23458055)
It’s not. I’m not that clever.
Re:The Impending Doom of Expiring Root CAs and Legacy Clients by bawolff on Monday June 08, 2020 @02:59PM (#23459620)
Not quite, as i doubt exclusive or is meant here.
Re:The Impending Doom of Expiring Root CAs and Legacy Clients by mywittyname on Monday June 08, 2020 @01:10PM (#23458441)
^ probably means super-script format in this context.

I'd probably say ~helpful~clueless instead though

Re:The Impending Doom of Expiring Root CAs and Legacy Clients by chihuahua on Monday June 08, 2020 @07:10PM (#23461790)
I had this problem with a Vizio 40" 4K TV once, and was able to solve it using the factory reset function in the menu.
Re:The Impending Doom of Expiring Root CAs and Legacy Clients by grishka on Monday June 08, 2020 @02:52PM (#23459530)
> It doesn’t let you remove them

What about factory reset?

Re:The Impending Doom of Expiring Root CAs and Legacy Clients by hanklazard on Monday June 08, 2020 @04:03PM (#23460164)
My wife connected it to our wifi the other day ... I almost lost it.
Re:The Impending Doom of Expiring Root CAs and Legacy Clients by ThePowerOfFuet on Monday June 08, 2020 @05:26PM (#23461006)
A factory reset should fix that TV right up.
Re:The Impending Doom of Expiring Root CAs and Legacy Clients by arminiusreturns on Monday June 08, 2020 @04:14PM (#23460277)
Also be aware that some smart TV's have been found to just connect to any open wifi, so even if you don't enter one and think your tv isn't spying, you could be wrong.