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Re:Snaps are an anti-pattern on Ubuntu by kd913 on Saturday June 06, 2020 @10:56AM (#23439610)
You people do realize that snaps have been around for 4 years right? It has widespread first party support from various companies including Microsoft, Amazon, Mozilla, Google, Spotify, JetBrains etc...

They have wide spread adoption with almost 10x the install base of Flatpaks.

Do you guys really need to keep throwing blogs at something which isn't going away and is useful to users? How is this useful in anyway? Canonical isn't suddenly going to give up on this, and I don't even want them to.

Re:Snaps are an anti-pattern on Ubuntu by quantummkv on Saturday June 06, 2020 @11:32AM (#23439845)
The main point here is that Snaps take away control from the user. The user has no control over how and when apps update. The backend for snaps is proprietary and completely in control of Canonical. If they decide to shove ads down through Snaps, they can at any time. And the whole hijacking of the chromium apt package to backdoor in snaps without user consent is a move straight out of the Microsoft playbook

This feels very natural to what Apple, Google and Microsoft do on their OS. But Canonical seems to have forgotten that such behavior is what drove a lot of people to Linux. It is never going to be accepted. Nor it should be.

Re:Snaps are an anti-pattern on Ubuntu by securityfreak on Saturday June 06, 2020 @05:52PM (#23442549)
Very well said! I am afraid there is a prophecy in your description. I have started moving all of our infrastructure away from Ubuntu at work. This sounds horrible. 2020 has been bad enough for one year.
Re:Snaps are an anti-pattern on Ubuntu by afiori on Saturday June 06, 2020 @09:00PM (#23443764)
> Do you guys really need to keep throwing blogs at something which isn't going away and is useful to users? How is this useful in anyway?

Personally I find snaps a very disappointing solution to a very interesting problem.

Re:Snaps are an anti-pattern on Ubuntu by RNCTX on Saturday June 06, 2020 @11:34AM (#23439858)
> Do you guys really need to keep throwing blogs at something which isn't going away and is useful to users?

Do you really want the answer to that...

There are people who would loudly insist that there should be nothing but a kernel and Stallman's FAQ.

Re:Snaps are an anti-pattern on Ubuntu by yjftsjthsd-h on Saturday June 06, 2020 @01:02PM (#23440591)
> There are people who would loudly insist that there should be nothing but a kernel and Stallman's FAQ.

Literally nobody says that. Not even RMS says that.

Re:Snaps are an anti-pattern on Ubuntu by oblio on Saturday June 06, 2020 @11:25AM (#23439795)
systemd went away. Oh, wait...
Re:Snaps are an anti-pattern on Ubuntu by cycloptic on Saturday June 06, 2020 @11:57AM (#23440046)
The thing about that is, even systemd contains bits of functionality that overlap with snap/flatpak now.