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Re:Amazon refuses to sell book on Covid-19 and lockdowns by tzs on Friday June 05, 2020 @04:55PM (#23433861)
> What about improving education, building functional (and trusted) institutions, and having more independent (non-profit driven) media?

They do not work, because the time and cost to create and widely disseminate falsehoods is much less than the time and cost to refute those falsehoods.

See "Firehose of falsehood" [1], which is an apt name for what happens now thanks to the internet and social media greatly lowering the barriers to getting information widely distributed.

As RAND researchers put it, "Don't expect to counter the firehose of falsehood with the squirt gun of truth."

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firehose_of_falsehood

Re:Amazon refuses to sell book on Covid-19 and lockdowns by kelnos on Friday June 05, 2020 @06:03PM (#23434554)
> They do not work, because the time and cost to create and widely disseminate falsehoods is much less than the time and cost to refute those falsehoods.

It's not about countering falsehoods, it's about giving people the tools to think critically and not be duped by falsehoods in the first place.

Re:Amazon refuses to sell book on Covid-19 and lockdowns by tzs on Friday June 05, 2020 @09:16PM (#23435924)
Don't they already have those tools readily available?

People don't believe QAnon, or that Bill Gates created COVID-19 as part of his secret plan to implant chips in everybody, or that 5G towers caused COVID-19, or that the earth is flat, etc., because they do not have access to the tools to find and critically evaluate the refutations of those idiotic beliefs.

All the necessary tools are readily available on the internet. But using them takes more effort than they want to put in. And if they do put in the effort to think critically about something they saw on social media, there are dozens more to take its place.

The falsehoods can be designed to be entertaining and to appeal to the fears and prejudices of their targets. This makes it easy for someone to get into it because they can start out just for the entertainment. They aren't going to seek out opposing views and critical evaluate them at that point because it is just entertainment. Somewhere along the line, it changes from being just entertainment to something they actually believe in.

Re:Amazon refuses to sell book on Covid-19 and lockdowns by phatfish on Friday June 05, 2020 @07:43PM (#23435267)
What about the people that don't care about critical thinking? Where an idea has come from (or the person advocating for it) often seems far more important than whether it's reasonable or true.

There is a societal change that needs to take place to fix that. Not caring about truth is a sign that a person has given up, it feels like a lot of people have given up.

Re:Amazon refuses to sell book on Covid-19 and lockdowns by Hnrobert42 on Friday June 05, 2020 @05:16PM (#23434068)
Exactly. I see a lot of posts refuting the garbage from the too post, and it does nothing. It’s like watching a whole community try to nail jello to a telephone pole.
Re:Amazon refuses to sell book on Covid-19 and lockdowns by yongjik on Friday June 05, 2020 @06:48PM (#23434878)
Upvoted for the imagery. :)
Re:Amazon refuses to sell book on Covid-19 and lockdowns by selimthegrim on Friday June 05, 2020 @11:12PM (#23436488)
I believe Bill Clinton is responsible for the original - "nailing jello to a wall"
Re:Amazon refuses to sell book on Covid-19 and lockdowns by Hnrobert42 on Sunday June 07, 2020 @03:55AM (#23445590)
Interesting. The guy I lifted it from will probably be rather embarrassed to be quoting Clinton. <tents fingers. laughs evilly.>
Re:Amazon refuses to sell book on Covid-19 and lockdowns by ceejayoz on Friday June 05, 2020 @09:36PM (#23436024)