Re:Kraftwerk played live with an astronaut on the ISS (2018)
by montenegrohugo on Thursday June 04, 2020 @05:35AM
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Expect to see stuff like this become more and more "normal" in the future, thanks to access to space becoming drastically cheaper. Falcon 9/Dragon seats are now available for civilian purchase, as well as license to stay on the ISS.
Some examples: Axiom Space [1] plans to send three private passengers to the ISS on 2021, as well as adding their own commercial modules to the ISS. Tom Cruise seems pretty set on filming his next movie in space too [2].
Furthermore, if the Starship [3] project is successful, space is going to become _cheap_, perhaps even to the point that anyone in the upper middle class might be able to purchase a ride.
Re:Kraftwerk played live with an astronaut on the ISS (2018)
by simias on Thursday June 04, 2020 @06:58AM
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I feel like shooting a movie in space would make for very good marketing but rather boring footage. Very cramped quarters, very drastic security measures would probably make for rather unimpressive footage compared to what's usually achieved through CGI. Space is big, space is slow, space is quiet. It will be quite an interesting challenge to make it look visually interesting in an action movie I think.
Although I suppose that watching the movie knowing that it was actually shot in space will be novelty enough to keep the audience captivated, but that'll only work for the first few movies going through the hassle of doing it, then the novelty will wear off and I expect that at that point people will be back to using much cheaper, simple and flexible CGI.
Re:Kraftwerk played live with an astronaut on the ISS (2018)
by 52-6F-62 on Thursday June 04, 2020 @11:45AM
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All scientific realism and other criticisms aside—I thought Gravity did a pretty good job with essentially what you described as the setting of the film.
Mostly spent focusing on pretty cramped quarters in a capsule. They figured out some ways to introduce drama. I think what might be the most stunning would be some of the exterior footage. I wonder whether that would introduce some sort of barrier-breaking in the mind when watching a film taking place above the earth knowing that the earth in the film is real footage in "real time" and not stock or CGI.
Re:Kraftwerk played live with an astronaut on the ISS (2018)
by NikolaeVarius on Thursday June 04, 2020 @02:12PM
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Suspension of disbelief failed when main character reached station with wildly different orientations with almost no delta-v in a stupidly short amount of time.
Re:Kraftwerk played live with an astronaut on the ISS (2018)
by Ductapemaster on Thursday June 04, 2020 @01:53PM
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That's a fair point, but I think zero gravity + green screens will be a really unique opportunity that is hard to replicate anywhere else but space. You can do things you can't in a studio.
Re:Kraftwerk played live with an astronaut on the ISS (2018)
by the_pwner224 on Thursday June 04, 2020 @09:54AM
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> Axiom Space [1] plans to send three private passengers to the ISS on 2021, as well as adding their own commercial modules to the ISS.
I just love when a super expensive taxpayer-funded space station (which is apparently also inefficient at science/$) gets used to make rich people richer.
Re:Kraftwerk played live with an astronaut on the ISS (2018)
by jordanthoms on Thursday June 04, 2020 @08:07PM
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If you had bothered to do any research before posting this, you'd have found that the private passengers will pay $33,750 per night to be there, plus $105 each day per bag stowed, $42/kwh for power, and $50/gb for internet.
Re:Kraftwerk played live with an astronaut on the ISS (2018)
by irjustin on Thursday June 04, 2020 @08:57AM
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I'd love to see the agreement that allows a movie to be shot in space. If they were to pay for the seats directly, it would be too much of the movie's budget.
Re:Kraftwerk played live with an astronaut on the ISS (2018)
by supernova87a on Thursday June 04, 2020 @12:53PM
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I'm very curious to know as a side point -- what kind of communications path goes to the ISS? Or for example, when SpaceX's rockets live stream the video during launch? The video quality on those broadcasts is really good. The diagram in that article is only a cartoon representation, I'd love to know actually how the signal gets carried.
Do they purely use ground-station-direct-to-orbit path, or is there some satellite-to-satellite "routing" of the transmission? Do they use some NASA ground station network, or pipe it through commercial ones as well? What kinds of frequencies are being used? Microwave (X/Ku/etc?-bands)?
Re:Kraftwerk played live with an astronaut on the ISS (2018)
by vr46 on Thursday June 04, 2020 @05:18AM
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Well, that was outstanding. i haven't seen Kraftwerk live since 1991 or 1992 but that was a gig I will never forget, and they're still changing and adapting. I wish I'd had the money to get tickets for their Italian gigs.
Re:Kraftwerk played live with an astronaut on the ISS (2018)
by squeaky-clean on Thursday June 04, 2020 @05:30AM
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> and they're still changing and adapting
Saw them for the first time in maybe 2014 or so. I hadn't followed much about them except listening to their music, so I was expecting them to be playing with a full setup of vintage 70's gear, mainly because there are a lot of other groups formed in the 70s who are still big and are doing that.
I was really excited to see them mostly using iPads and microsoft Surfaces hooked up to several keyboards and other MIDI controllers. I think they just always want to be trying out the newest musical tech.
The twist here is that the astronaut was honoring a good friend of mine after he'd died.
My buddy Vic trained the astronauts on medical matters and first aid. He showed my how you can't do CPR in space the normal way, because you'll just push yourself across the room, so there's special stuff like this that they need to be trained in.
He gave me the real back-stage tour in Houston, which was incredibly cool. One nifty thing he showed my was how they simulate the communications delay in training. It's remarkably easy and obvious: they just use Tivos.
Re:Kraftwerk played live with an astronaut on the ISS (2018)
by FrojoS on Thursday June 04, 2020 @02:26PM
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Is there an app that I can use to create similar sounds as AstroAlex directly on my iPhone? Lemur (which was used here) seems to best just a remote for synthesizers, correct? Also, 25 bucks is quite steep for just playing around.
Re:Kraftwerk played live with an astronaut on the ISS (2018)
by ericwood on Thursday June 04, 2020 @02:38PM
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Correct, Lemur is just a remote. I've heard great things about TouchOSC, which would fill a similar role at a fraction of the cost: https://hexler.net/products/touchosc
Some examples: Axiom Space [1] plans to send three private passengers to the ISS on 2021, as well as adding their own commercial modules to the ISS. Tom Cruise seems pretty set on filming his next movie in space too [2].
Furthermore, if the Starship [3] project is successful, space is going to become _cheap_, perhaps even to the point that anyone in the upper middle class might be able to purchase a ride.
Exciting times.
[1] https://www.axiomspace.com/
[2] https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/5/21248460/nasa-tom-cruise-m...
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Starship
Although I suppose that watching the movie knowing that it was actually shot in space will be novelty enough to keep the audience captivated, but that'll only work for the first few movies going through the hassle of doing it, then the novelty will wear off and I expect that at that point people will be back to using much cheaper, simple and flexible CGI.
Mostly spent focusing on pretty cramped quarters in a capsule. They figured out some ways to introduce drama. I think what might be the most stunning would be some of the exterior footage. I wonder whether that would introduce some sort of barrier-breaking in the mind when watching a film taking place above the earth knowing that the earth in the film is real footage in "real time" and not stock or CGI.
I just love when a super expensive taxpayer-funded space station (which is apparently also inefficient at science/$) gets used to make rich people richer.
https://www.nasa.gov/leo-economy/commercial-use/pricing-poli...
Regardless, love to see it happen.
Do they purely use ground-station-direct-to-orbit path, or is there some satellite-to-satellite "routing" of the transmission? Do they use some NASA ground station network, or pipe it through commercial ones as well? What kinds of frequencies are being used? Microwave (X/Ku/etc?-bands)?
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaOC9danxNo
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hadfield
[3] https://music.apple.com/ca/album/space-sessions-songs-from-a...
https://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/05/us/challenger-astronaut-a...
Saw them for the first time in maybe 2014 or so. I hadn't followed much about them except listening to their music, so I was expecting them to be playing with a full setup of vintage 70's gear, mainly because there are a lot of other groups formed in the 70s who are still big and are doing that.
I was really excited to see them mostly using iPads and microsoft Surfaces hooked up to several keyboards and other MIDI controllers. I think they just always want to be trying out the newest musical tech.
The twist here is that the astronaut was honoring a good friend of mine after he'd died.
My buddy Vic trained the astronauts on medical matters and first aid. He showed my how you can't do CPR in space the normal way, because you'll just push yourself across the room, so there's special stuff like this that they need to be trained in.
He gave me the real back-stage tour in Houston, which was incredibly cool. One nifty thing he showed my was how they simulate the communications delay in training. It's remarkably easy and obvious: they just use Tivos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeC4nqBB5BM
https://www.arte.tv/en/videos/048927-000-A/kraftwerk-pop-art...
[1] https://motion-soundscape.blogspot.com/2017/07/synthscaper-s...