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Re:Tesla Model 3 Drives into Overturned Truck in Apparent Au... by rimliu on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @03:12AM (#23388483)
Ok, a wind blows a empty paper bag on the road. A human will see by the way it moved that it is empty and safe to drive over. What will AI see? A driveable road or a road with a rock on it? I still think that without the "model of the world" no AI will be capable of driving. And that model requires GAI.
Re:Tesla Model 3 Drives into Overturned Truck in Apparent Au... by taneq on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @03:16AM (#23388498)
I'll take a self-driving car that makes a controlled stop for a wind-blown paper bag over a self-driving car that ploughs into an overturned truck.
Re:Tesla Model 3 Drives into Overturned Truck in Apparent Au... by syspec on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @03:32AM (#23388588)
I agree but stopping on the highway for a paper bag could itself lead to serious series of accidents
Re:Tesla Model 3 Drives into Overturned Truck in Apparent Au... by brutt on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @05:05AM (#23389130)
It's because human beings are unable to keep safe distance.
Re:Tesla Model 3 Drives into Overturned Truck in Apparent Au... by totalZero on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @06:39AM (#23389571)
Scapegoating of humans who make soft errors doesn't do anything to make autonomous driving safer.
Re:Tesla Model 3 Drives into Overturned Truck in Apparent Au... by armandhammer on Thursday June 04, 2020 @08:30AM (#23415713)
Interestingly, I remember this exact scenario was a noted problem for some sort of computer-controlled shock absorbers that I saw on the "Beyond 2000" TV show in the mid-90s. In many scenarios, the shock absorbers could detect bumps and holes in the road and compensate perfectly, resulting in a ride that was smooth as glass.

But they still hadn't figured out how to differentiate between a crumpled paper bag and a rock, or a pothole filled with water vs a smooth surface. Otherwise, it was really impressive.

Found it on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KPYIaks1UY

I feel like Level 4 or 5 Autonomous Driving will be the same -- there are just some problems that will never be solved well enough to make it work acceptably.

Re:Tesla Model 3 Drives into Overturned Truck in Apparent Au... by jvanderbot on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @01:55PM (#23393897)
I think the vehicle should alert the driver, and being controlled slowdown until it is overridden. Sorry, driver, you are inconvenienced. Maybe you are in the carpool / AI-only lane, so it's not a big deal. Yes, there probably should be an AI-only lane for now.

This could exist now, but we have set sights on Level 5 at the expense of pragmatism.