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Re:Court rules that barring high IQs for cops is not unconst... by chrisseaton on Sunday May 31, 2020 @02:47PM (#23371620)
> Pays really well

How much do you think police are paid?

https://www1.nyc.gov/site/nypd/careers/police-officers/po-be...

> Starting salary: $42,500

That's in New York City. Ouch.

> may potentially earn over $100,000 per year

And that's what they're advertising as an aspirational possibility! Even a first-year engineer will earn more than that.

You may be able to find some corner cases of some individual police officers getting paid up to $500k. But that's just showing that the very top officers earn about the same as a mid-level engineer at a tech company.

Re:Court rules that barring high IQs for cops is not unconst... by Judgmentality on Sunday May 31, 2020 @02:59PM (#23371731)
> You may be able to find some corner cases of some individual police officers getting paid up to $500k. But that's just showing that the very top officers earn about the same as a mid-level engineer at a tech company.

I really don't believe your typical mid-level engineer is making $500k at any company in the world, let alone that it's just a given if you make it into big tech.

FWIW, I have received offers for senior positions from FAANG before.

Re:Court rules that barring high IQs for cops is not unconst... by chrisseaton on Sunday May 31, 2020 @03:02PM (#23371755)
> I really don't believe your typical mid-level engineer is making $500k

Including stock? They absolutely are in the US.

Re:Court rules that barring high IQs for cops is not unconst... by joshuamorton on Sunday May 31, 2020 @03:11PM (#23371819)
If by mid level you mean well tenured L6, then sure.

If by mid level you mean actual mid level, like L4, then no.

If by typical you mean someone not working at Google or Facebook, then no.

Re:Court rules that barring high IQs for cops is not unconst... by jeffbee on Sunday May 31, 2020 @03:41PM (#23372058)
I don’t think l6 is a good definition of typical. Only 10% of SWEs are at 6 and above. 50% are at least L5, making that the median grade, and therefore a pretty good definition of “typical”.
Re:Court rules that barring high IQs for cops is not unconst... by joshuamorton on Sunday May 31, 2020 @04:07PM (#23372264)
That's sort of my point, L5 SWEs aren't making 500K anywhere.
Re:Court rules that barring high IQs for cops is not unconst... by Judgmentality on Sunday May 31, 2020 @04:25PM (#23372408)
> 50% are at least L5

I don't think half of software engineers are senior or above.

Re:Court rules that barring high IQs for cops is not unconst... by jeffbee on Sunday May 31, 2020 @05:37PM (#23372971)
At Google they are. Half are below L5, half are L5+, 10% are L6+.
Re:Court rules that barring high IQs for cops is not unconst... by username90 on Monday June 01, 2020 @05:02AM (#23376562)
I think they are since you are senior when you have 5-10 years of experience.
Re:Court rules that barring high IQs for cops is not unconst... by umanwizard on Sunday May 31, 2020 @03:46PM (#23372105)
Is E5 mid-level? I made <400k at Facebook and that was after very substantial stock appreciation and a “discretionary equity” extra grant bonus.
Re:Court rules that barring high IQs for cops is not unconst... by Judgmentality on Sunday May 31, 2020 @03:10PM (#23371806)
Please tell me where to apply, because neither Google nor Facebook were willing to pay me that for a senior position.

https://www.levels.fyi/

There absolutely are engineers making that much, I even know more than one making 7 digits in liquid comp, but they are not "typical" in any way.

Re:Court rules that barring high IQs for cops is not unconst... by rayiner on Sunday May 31, 2020 @03:20PM (#23371894)
New York City is an outlier in combining low pay and high cost of living. Baltimore (Freddie Grey) officers start at $55k, in a city where a nice townhouse costs $250,000. In Minneapolis starting salary for new officers is $55-70k depending on qualifications. Chicago PD officers start at $72,000 after the probationary period. Generous benefits add $20k+ to that figure.

Note the median starting college graduate salary is about $50,000. Median mid-career college graduate salary is $80,000.

Re:Court rules that barring high IQs for cops is not unconst... by lostlogin on Sunday May 31, 2020 @03:28PM (#23371958)
> In Minneapolis starting salary for new officers is $55-70k depending on qualifications.

Wonder how their recruiting will be doing now? They will need to raise that a lot to get reasonable candidates now.

Re:Court rules that barring high IQs for cops is not unconst... by Ididntdothis on Sunday May 31, 2020 @03:18PM (#23371881)
They also get a nice pension and can retire early. At least in California being a cop is a pretty nice gig.
Re:Court rules that barring high IQs for cops is not unconst... by jeffbee on Sunday May 31, 2020 @03:42PM (#23372069)
And total immunity from prosecution for virtually any class of crime. Surely that can be valued.
Re:Court rules that barring high IQs for cops is not unconst... by ViViDboarder on Sunday May 31, 2020 @03:16PM (#23371848)
I hire engineers at a large Bay Area tech company, and this is way off. According to https://levels.fyi, even a Senior SWE at Google pays ~$343k annually including stock. And that’s a FAANG salary. The majority of firms are not paying that.