Re:In NY major crime complaints fell when cops stopped ‘proa...
by surfmike on Friday May 29, 2020 @01:25PM
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Our crime rate is probably 4x higher than developed European countries, so we could still use more of the security product. It’s not clear that they’re mutually exclusive anyway—you can push efforts to improve justice while improving policing.
Re:In NY major crime complaints fell when cops stopped ‘proa...
by SpicyLemonZest on Friday May 29, 2020 @11:57AM
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I agree, but the question is how to get from here to there. Releasing all the nonviolent drug addicts - which we certainly should do! - still doesn't get us close to those other countries.
Re:In NY major crime complaints fell when cops stopped ‘proa...
by danenania on Friday May 29, 2020 @12:13PM
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By the numbers, our best bet is probably revamping the prison system to focus on rehabilitation instead of punishment, and then drastically reducing the length of sentences.
Our goal should be to get someone as close as possible to 0 chance of recidivism in as short a time as possible.
Re:In NY major crime complaints fell when cops stopped ‘proa...
by close04 on Friday May 29, 2020 @12:56PM
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Education is usually another good place to start. Educated people tend to make more informed choices, and informed choices tend to shape better futures.
Re:In NY major crime complaints fell when cops stopped ‘proa...
by coopsmgoops on Friday May 29, 2020 @12:53PM
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Stop basing the sentencing on baseball would also be a good move.
Re:In NY major crime complaints fell when cops stopped ‘proa...
by MiroF on Friday May 29, 2020 @12:10PM
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The problem with the drug war is imprisoning dealers, not addicts - and if we released them it would get us much closer to those other countries.
Re:In NY major crime complaints fell when cops stopped ‘proa...
by JoeAltmaier on Friday May 29, 2020 @12:50PM
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Americans are a little different from many other peoples. Every one of us has a chip on their shoulder. I'd expect it to be different, in a country with a docile population.
Here's a picture and discussion that highlights this: https://smart-online-marketing.nl/en/conversion/cultural-dif...
Re:In NY major crime complaints fell when cops stopped ‘proa...
by MiroF on Friday May 29, 2020 @01:22PM
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It be kinda nice to see an article that cites the "research" it mentions rather than just providing a nice color coded graph of the world where
"you can see how every country on the world scores on individualism, from light-green to dark-green. Light-green means a low score on individualism, in other words, strongly collectivist. Dark-green countries are strongly individualist."
Re:In NY major crime complaints fell when cops stopped ‘proa...
by JoeAltmaier on Friday May 29, 2020 @03:43PM
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Feel free to link
US: 655/100k
UK: 135/100K
China: 121/100K
Germany: 77/100K
Iceland: 37/100K
It feels like we are consuming just a little too much of the "security" product. Maybe we should try consuming the "justice" product. I hear it's pretty good.
[1] https://www.prisonstudies.org/highest-to-lowest/prison_popul...