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by lern_too_spel on Friday May 29, 2020 @04:52AM
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Unlike BN(O)/BOC, India's caste system isn't supported by law.
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by barking on Friday May 29, 2020 @04:59AM
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True but it definitely doesn't do much to stamp it out.
In Britain, if you want to see racism, try being a white boy dating a non-white girl. If she's black, black males in general won't like it and if she's Indian, her family will almost definitely not like it.
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by morsch on Friday May 29, 2020 @05:41AM
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That sounds like an equitable union between sexism/mysoginy and racism.
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by lern_too_spel on Friday May 29, 2020 @05:04AM
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> In Britain, if you want to see racism, try being a white boy dating a non-white girl
Try being a non-white boy dating a white girl. Do you think racism doesn't rear its head in that case?
In any case, this is pretty blatant whataboutism. The article is about the UK, not about other countries, and racism in other countries does not make racism in the UK less bad.
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by barking on Friday May 29, 2020 @05:13AM
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Sure it does but families from certain non native communities in the UK will go to extreme extents to break up such relationships.
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by lern_too_spel on Friday May 29, 2020 @05:23AM
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Families from certain native communities in the UK will do that, too. They just call it "nativism" instead of "racism."
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by barking on Friday May 29, 2020 @06:30AM
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Which native communities would those be? Your comment does not sound like that of someone overly familiar with the UK. Nativist for example is not a term used in the UK.
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by zo1 on Friday May 29, 2020 @07:36AM
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Interesting choice of words... White Boy, Non-White girl, black male? This is the same sort of non-sense that the Feminists were warning the world about decades ago: How stereotypes and other bad properties are built-in to the culture and language, and we should address them. We seem to have all too easily forgotten that and simply replaced them with new forms of sexism and racism.
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by barking on Friday May 29, 2020 @08:04AM
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What words should I have used?
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by chii on Friday May 29, 2020 @04:56AM
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being supported by cultural norms is worse than being supported by law. Laws can be overturned by a stroke of the pen. Cultural norms still persist after the law is overturned. Case in point: black racism and prejudice in the USA.
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by techie128 on Friday May 29, 2020 @06:03AM
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Cultural norms typically dictate laws and not the other way round. Case in point: The US constitution granted Women right to vote on August 26, 1920 when the Nineteenth Amendment was adopted. And no, it did not happen with a "stroke of a pen". The movement began in 1771 and their rights finally enshrined in the US Constitution in 1920 (~150 years).
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by lern_too_spel on Friday May 29, 2020 @04:58AM
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Are you suggesting that the current situation for blacks is worse than when there were Jim Crow laws? When racist laws are in place, there are also cultural norms that exist with them.
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by PakG1 on Friday May 29, 2020 @05:05AM
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It's better, but problems obviously still exist.
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by lern_too_spel on Friday May 29, 2020 @05:21AM
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I didn't disagree with that. The point is that when there are racist laws, the situation is strictly worse than when there are only racist cultural norms because the former does not exist without the latter.