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Re:Stop Watching the News (2019) by SpicyLemonZest on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @05:29PM (#23316620)
I would guess the ratio isn't much below 1:1, which I don't find acceptable. If a friend told me shocking stories about my coworkers, and 50% of them or even 25% of them were wrong, I'd stop listening to her.

As I mentioned in another comment thread, I don't think the author objects (and I certainly don't object) to in-depth investigations of national or global issues. That's a vanishingly small portion of what the news as instantiated today does.

Re:Stop Watching the News (2019) by TulliusCicero on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @05:42PM (#23316764)
You think the news that causes widespread public outrage is substantially inaccurate 25-50% of the time? I'd be shocked if it was even 5%.
Re:Stop Watching the News (2019) by NikolaNovak on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @05:55PM (#23316895)
I'd be shocked if it were less than 50%

Commercial news by definition is looking to shock/sensationalize/rile up. It may not be on a conscious level but it's a race to gather & keep attention - boring stuff won't cut it.

I'm not supporting author's point mind you, I believe education/informedness is the only thing we have approaching a silver bullet. But the amount of internet justice and vigilanteism we have today, a lot of it inspired by various kinds of news - from local cable TV news indicating our suburbian neighbourhoods are a pithole of violence, to politically charged national news, to hilarious reporting on science and medicine... it all outrages and most of it is at best numbing, at worst utterly wrong.

Re:Stop Watching the News (2019) by TulliusCicero on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @06:04PM (#23316962)
There's a certain amount of sensationalization to get eyeballs with things like headlines, obviously, but I'd be surprised if you looked at the various news stories that caused public outrage over the course of a year, if more than a small percentage were actually mis-reported/factually incorrect when it came to mainstream news coverage by reputable organizations.
Re:Stop Watching the News (2019) by grawprog on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @08:39PM (#23318194)
Just as an example, a friend of mine had a fishing video get picked up by a few different news outlets. He gave a small writeup explaining the video to each of them. Not one of them reported the correct information. None of them got the location correct, only one got the kind of fish correct and one of them might as well have been talking about a totally different video, they literally contradicted what you could see in the video.

The way I see it, of something as trivial as a fishing video can be reported on so completely and utterly incorrectly, without the slightest regard for even the tiny amount of facts provided alongside the video, then why should i assume anything else is reported correctly?

Re:Stop Watching the News (2019) by NikolaNovak on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @07:43PM (#23317773)
Possibly. I don't think either one of us has immediate access to a solid survey or report/analysis - so it's an interesting point of its own that we have a wildly different initial estimate/assumption ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Re:Stop Watching the News (2019) by SpicyLemonZest on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @05:48PM (#23316830)
Yes. About a quarter of the time I hear about some public outrage, I've definitively concluded that it's misinformed. It's possible there's selection bias in which outrages I hear about, but I don't have a strong reason to expect that.
Re:Stop Watching the News (2019) by TulliusCicero on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @06:02PM (#23316938)
I think we're applying different standards here. Judging from your comments on the recent outrage over delivery apps, I'm guessing you'd use that as an example of substantially misreported/inaccurate outrage news?
Re:Stop Watching the News (2019) by SpicyLemonZest on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @06:07PM (#23316988)
I guess I was implicitly focusing on outrages targeting specific named people. I wouldn't say the stories about delivery apps are misreported, and agree that news on that kind of thing is much less likely to be just completely false.
Re:Stop Watching the News (2019) by guscost on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @06:43PM (#23317318)
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/65213-briefly-stated-the-ge...

> Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray's case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward — reversing cause and effect. I call these the "wet streets cause rain" stories. Paper's full of them. In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.