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Re:London may have gone into a Covid-accelerated decline by sandworm101 on Saturday May 23, 2020 @06:43PM (#23287246)
>>> poor parts of the Midlands and north of England would get lots of infrastructure investment, helping them to close the productivity gap with London. The country would be “levelled up”.

By "infrastructure" I guess they mean improvements to intercity rail connections, namely the high speed rail. I don't see those as localized improvements. Moreover they seem geared to decreasing commute times in/out of london (and a couple other of the largest cities). The net result is to allow rich londoners to live and commute from further afield. That isn't a move away from "peak capital", it's doubling down on that capital by further extending its influence, expanding the hinterlands on which it relies.

Re:London may have gone into a Covid-accelerated decline by ENIanDEM on Sunday May 24, 2020 @04:42AM (#23290138)
Sorry, no. High speed rail's main benefit is to increase capacity on existing lines by removing fast trains from the mix. Currently big gaps have to be left in front of the fast trains to allow them to run. The reduction in travel time is a secondary benefit.

I was unaware of this until I recently discovered Gareth Dennis on twitter, who is doing a fantastic job of making up for HS2 ltd's appallingly lacking public engagement "strategy".

Re:London may have gone into a Covid-accelerated decline by venantius on Sunday May 24, 2020 @05:50AM (#23290418)
Surely you mean removing slow trains from the mix?
Re:London may have gone into a Covid-accelerated decline by ENIanDEM on Monday May 25, 2020 @01:24AM (#23298141)
Maybe "slow" is a misnomer or misleading. By slow we're talking about local services which stop at every station. When you relocate fast trains onto another line, those local services benefit considerably. Ultimately you get more local services running, which alleviates the sardine-style travel we currently endure.
Re:London may have gone into a Covid-accelerated decline by akadruid1 on Sunday May 24, 2020 @04:43AM (#23290143)
HSR was never about commuting, capacity is too low, the journey time improvements are modest and tickets will always be priced to discourage commuting. It's a bone to throw to those people who currently travel longer distances to London, who are currently using slower rail, driving or flying. This group includes all the MPs from north of Birmingham, as well lots of rich Tory voters, and it was thought that it would carry the same appeal as the channel tunnel does for Londoners - reduced journey time and hassle for very occasional trips. They missed several real opportunities with it though - proper connection with the existing HSR to Europe would have played into the eco / flight shaming crowd, but it didn't fit the Brexit message. Linking it to a program of speed improvements on connecting commuter rail would have been a cheaper vote winner that would have boosted the value of HSR2 too. The whole project was a giant misguided waste of our money even before covid19 made public transit irrelevant, and with the rise of self-driving and environmentally friendlier cars only a crazy stubborn government would place a multi-billion pound on continuing HSR2.
Re:London may have gone into a Covid-accelerated decline by ENIanDEM on Monday May 25, 2020 @01:47AM (#23298277)
> HSR was never about commuting, capacity is too low

It initially doubles capacity and ultimately triples it https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/... (figure 4.2, p76)

What would "proper connection to Europe" have looked like to you? HS2 ends in London where eurostar begins. If HS2 terminated in say, Milton Keynes, I'd wholeheartedly agree with you.

> Linking it to a program of speed improvements on connecting commuter rail would have been a cheaper vote winner

Do you have any evidence for this? Any publicly available report showing even outline calculations? HS2 has always had cross party support.

> before covid19 made public transit irrelevant

In one way or another, the threat of covid will eventually pass. We'll still need public transport when it does.

Re:London may have gone into a Covid-accelerated decline by rjsw on Saturday May 23, 2020 @07:54PM (#23287745)
Money could be spent on electrifying more of the commuter rail network around the Northern cities.