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Re:Scott Forstall tells story about Steve Jobs, Microsoft, a... by lostlogin on Friday May 22, 2020 @02:11AM (#23269132)
The series of Microsoft fish stories here is truely bizarre. Surely there is a more universally agreeable gift food?
Re:Scott Forstall tells story about Steve Jobs, Microsoft, a... by ubermonkey on Friday May 22, 2020 @09:14AM (#23271657)
I think you may be missing how central absurdly high quality salmon is to the northwest.

It's the local Thing. Lots of places have that sort of strong geographic tie to an art or food or what-have-you; the only odd part here is that most local foods don't travel well -- but smoked salmon obviously can and does.

Re:Scott Forstall tells story about Steve Jobs, Microsoft, a... by deanCommie on Friday May 22, 2020 @03:35AM (#23269567)
Who doesn't like Salmon?
Re:Scott Forstall tells story about Steve Jobs, Microsoft, a... by rhaps0dy on Friday May 22, 2020 @04:11AM (#23269739)
Vegan applicants would not find it funny.
Re:Scott Forstall tells story about Steve Jobs, Microsoft, a... by OatsAndHoney on Friday May 22, 2020 @05:30AM (#23270180)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2018/08/06/who-ar...

Vegans at most account for 3% of the population. In a corporate entity that large, it doesn’t matter if you miss a hire or not. So if a vegan was offended, I’m sure no one cared and was happy to offer the job to someone else.

Re:Scott Forstall tells story about Steve Jobs, Microsoft, a... by dharmab on Friday May 22, 2020 @08:07AM (#23271215)
A large portion of MS employees are vegetarian because many Hindus are vegetarian. At MS Build they always have both vegetarian and Indian vegetarian options.
Re:Scott Forstall tells story about Steve Jobs, Microsoft, a... by jldugger on Friday May 22, 2020 @12:53PM (#23274166)
Yea, but ... due to the visa situation the vast majority of those folks are not getting the maximal courtship, so to speak.
Re:Scott Forstall tells story about Steve Jobs, Microsoft, a... by dharmab on Friday May 22, 2020 @01:23PM (#23274587)
You are aware that there are many, many Hindus who are US citizens, yes? Who have been in the country since birth or early childhood?
Re:Scott Forstall tells story about Steve Jobs, Microsoft, a... by jldugger on Friday May 22, 2020 @03:13PM (#23275790)
There are, but I suspect they are not as prevalent in the software engineering profession? Even the CEOs of Google and Microsoft took that track.
Re:Scott Forstall tells story about Steve Jobs, Microsoft, a... by CathedralBorrow on Friday May 22, 2020 @08:10AM (#23271233)
If it doesn't matter if you miss a hire or not, why would you be going through the effort of buying a large fancy salmon and shipping it to the candidate? You could just not do that and not care about the ones you miss since they don't matter.
Re:Scott Forstall tells story about Steve Jobs, Microsoft, a... by mcv on Friday May 22, 2020 @09:57AM (#23272089)
That's a very dismissive attitude to your hires, and it makes the salmon even more pointless.

If you want to make a point about how good the salmon is, invite them and treat them to the best salmon in town, instead of dumping a dead fish that nobody asked for on their doorstep.

Re:Scott Forstall tells story about Steve Jobs, Microsoft, a... by hkyeti on Friday May 22, 2020 @06:08AM (#23270400)
Hey good idea, deliberately exclude people who don't eat meat. You know who might end up being CEO level material
Re:Scott Forstall tells story about Steve Jobs, Microsoft, a... by TomMarius on Friday May 22, 2020 @06:20AM (#23270474)
"Don't send him the nice fish, he might be a vegetarian AND might be the next CEO"... Yeah, huh, I don't think that's the usual concern. I think many people wouldn't want to hire a person that takes offense from a misplaced but nice gesture, anyways - I would not.
Re:Scott Forstall tells story about Steve Jobs, Microsoft, a... by hkyeti on Friday May 22, 2020 @07:32AM (#23270960)
If you're a hiring manager and can't even be bothered to know the most basic facts about me and that I might not like that piece or pork or salmon for religious or ethical reasons then that about says it all.
Re:Scott Forstall tells story about Steve Jobs, Microsoft, a... by x43b on Friday May 22, 2020 @11:41AM (#23273271)
>If you're a hiring manager and can't even be bothered to >know the most basic facts about me and that I might not like >that piece or pork or salmon for religious or ethical >reasons then that about says it all.

If you are a hiring manager and you are attempting to learn someone's religious or dietary beliefs prior to hiring then then you should be sued/fired.

Re:Scott Forstall tells story about Steve Jobs, Microsoft, a... by lostlogin on Friday May 22, 2020 @02:58PM (#23275634)
The video posted shows Forstall wondering if the dead fish was a threat. He might be making this up but the situation is strange at best, confusing, offensive or threatening at worst. The person doing the hiring screwed up, and clearly did need to do better.
Re:Scott Forstall tells story about Steve Jobs, Microsoft, a... by hkyeti on Friday May 22, 2020 @02:59PM (#23275644)
If you're of that view then why could you possibly think sending a dead fish to a candidate without checking first is ok in the first place.

And yes when I've taken my candidates for lunch as part of recruiting I always ask for any dietary preferences so i can find a place that accommodates. It's just commonsense.

Re:Scott Forstall tells story about Steve Jobs, Microsoft, a... by lostlogin on Friday May 22, 2020 @03:01PM (#23275669)
> Yeah, huh, I don't think that's the usual concern

Keep in mind that they missed out on Forstall. It seems unlikely he would have ended up CEO, but that’s not as far fetched as the prospects for most hires.

Re:Scott Forstall tells story about Steve Jobs, Microsoft, a... by numpad0 on Friday May 22, 2020 @03:15AM (#23269452)
Maybe the failure rate had been acceptable, ain’t fix if it ain’t broke style.

I wonder if it has been the inspiration for Steve Jobs’ “Japanese are like dead fish washing up” quote, if Microsoft was sending dead fish left and right around California and he was sick of it.