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Re:‘It’s something I have never seen’: How the Covid-19 viru... by AnonC on Thursday May 21, 2020 @01:13PM (#23261311)
This was a bit dense in some paragraphs for me as a layperson, but the conclusion sounded like we may have found a more reliable (read understood) way to tackle this virus. Is that the case? (I realize a lot more work would have to be done for effective drugs and vaccines)
Re:‘It’s something I have never seen’: How the Covid-19 viru... by drwiggly on Thursday May 21, 2020 @01:29PM (#23261609)
It talks about two processes that happen.

The first is cells emit a signal to other cells that it's infected, which causes the cell receiving the signal to shutdown replication facilities.

The second message sends out a call for the cops.

Covd2 stops the first signal but allows the second.

Suppressing the first signal means it can replicate faster because the cells in the area didn't stop their replication facilities.

Allowing the second means you get tons of cops showing up because every cell is now calling the hotline. So many cops in one area causes problems of its own.

The cops can't kill them fast enough because the cells aren't slowing down replication. So you get tons of virus cells and tons of host immune cells, and not enough organ cells doing whatever they do.

Anyway they're saying possibly manually taking replication inhibitors would substitute for cells 1st message not working, and allow the runaway infection to be killed by the cops.

There are issues with just blindly taking drugs for this. So they'd have to find out when its appropriate.

Re:‘It’s something I have never seen’: How the Covid-19 viru... by jonny_eh on Thursday May 21, 2020 @01:48PM (#23261959)
There would likely be consequences to forcing your cells to stop replicating for an extended period too.
Re:‘It’s something I have never seen’: How the Covid-19 viru... by pavs on Thursday May 21, 2020 @02:56PM (#23263238)
doesn't chemotherapy does something similar to this:

"The ability of chemotherapy to kill cancer cells depends on its ability to halt cell division. Usually, cancer drugs work by damaging the RNA or DNA that tells the cell how to copy itself in division. If the cancer cells are unable to divide, they die."

So wouldn't a low dose chemotherapy work on this drug?

Re:‘It’s something I have never seen’: How the Covid-19 viru... by vikramkr on Thursday May 21, 2020 @04:27PM (#23264659)
It might, though the viral replication factories aren't necessarily the ones that are used for cells to replicate. If they do work, well, you'd have all those side effects of stopping cell replication that the parent mentioned - all those horrible side effects of chemo. Maybe it would be worth it, but it would have to be pretty darn effective to be worth those side effects.
Re:‘It’s something I have never seen’: How the Covid-19 viru... by adrianmonk on Thursday May 21, 2020 @09:41PM (#23267858)
> Suppressing the first signal means it can replicate faster because the cells in the area didn't stop their replication facilities.

The article also says this suppression is "stronger than the original SARS virus or influenza viruses".

The article touches on how this might connect with the severity of the disease. But I'm curious if it could also have something to do with how easy it is to transmit. If your lungs contain many times more viruses (than they'd have with most other diseases), then perhaps when you cough, many times more viruses float out into the air.

Re:‘It’s something I have never seen’: How the Covid-19 viru... by jonahbenton on Thursday May 21, 2020 @01:39PM (#23261790)
I read it the opposite way- am also a layperson but have memory of reading similar distilled versions of the research into HIV.

With COVID updates like this come every week; in the 1990s with HIV it was more like every few months there was some new report/observation. But those- like these were framed with the similar- holy shit, this virus does stuff we have never seen before.

I would caution to not infer that anything like a viable solution at scale on either the preventative side or the treatment side is anywhere near deployment.

Re:‘It’s something I have never seen’: How the Covid-19 viru... by gizmo686 on Thursday May 21, 2020 @01:22PM (#23261492)
Yes. In vitro (petri dish), this method appears effective; and we have a solid understanding of why it works.

In practice, this does not always translate to effective treatments in actual people. Further, this type of treatment is known to have risks and side effects, so we will likely not be able to give it to everyone as a preventative measure. Further, it is not clear how early in the disease's progression one would need to take such a drug to get a significant benefit.

Re:‘It’s something I have never seen’: How the Covid-19 viru... by bsder on Thursday May 21, 2020 @02:56PM (#23263255)
> the conclusion sounded like we may have found a more reliable (read understood) way to tackle this virus.

No, but it gives doctors another thing to try with the possibility that it might work.

Interferon treatment isn't pleasant, so you won't do it without justification. This gives some justification to actually try it in humans if things are really bad.

Re:‘It’s something I have never seen’: How the Covid-19 viru... by saijanai on Thursday May 21, 2020 @06:20PM (#23266182)
At least they're not advocating AZT...

Hmmmm, Mr. President? I have this new experimental therapy you might want to try...

Re:‘It’s something I have never seen’: How the Covid-19 viru... by DougN7 on Friday May 22, 2020 @12:10PM (#23273613)
I’m against animal cruelty, but for that baboon?