Re:Organ donation in England has moved to an opt-out system
by tobib on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @05:41PM
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While this is a horrifying story, I'm having a hard time seeing the relevance here. There is nothing in the article indicating that the errors were caused by the family agreeing to organ donation.
Re:Organ donation in England has moved to an opt-out system
by ummonk on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @05:46PM
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Had the family not agreed to organ donation, they wouldn’t have planned to harvest the organs in the first place.
Re:Organ donation in England has moved to an opt-out system
by VikingCoder on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @05:58PM
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"Medical errors kill almost 100000 Americans a year" [1]
You're picking one horror story because it fits your parameters, and pretending it's something to worry about. It's not. Cheers.
Re:Organ donation in England has moved to an opt-out system
by anslq on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @06:05PM
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I'm not aware that a medical procedure is opt-out, I always assumed it was voluntary.
Unlike this state mandated organ seizure, if you haven't heard the news and opt-out of yet another thing.
Re:Organ donation in England has moved to an opt-out system
by crooked-v on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @06:16PM
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There are about a million other things done to dead bodies that will kill a mistakenly-identified-as-dead person as stone dead as removing an organ, so organ donation specifically doesn't really have a special status here outside of it being potentially the first item on the long checklist.
Re:Organ donation in England has moved to an opt-out system
by VikingCoder on Thursday May 21, 2020 @10:07AM
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Emergency procedures are often done without consent. Because patients are often unconscious and cannot give consent. Just like in your story.
Re:Organ donation in England has moved to an opt-out system
by KeepFlying on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @05:38PM
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The article you linked is a truly horrifying thought.
I wonder though if a change like this would reduce those cases in the long term though. If there are more organs available, wouldn't there be less pressure to harvest from any particular person?
Re:Organ donation in England has moved to an opt-out system
by ncallaway on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @05:43PM
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"More totalitarianism"
Nonsense. Absolute and utter nonsense.
There's an opt-out.
Re:Organ donation in England has moved to an opt-out system
by anslq on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @06:06PM
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> There's an opt-out.
That was the spammer's excuse 10 years ago.
Re:Organ donation in England has moved to an opt-out system
by mojzu on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @05:43PM
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What relevance does a 10 year old article from a US hospital have on this UK news?
As long as the opt-out is respected I also don't see what's totalitarian about it.
Re:Organ donation in England has moved to an opt-out system
by carlinmack on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @05:38PM
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how is totalitarianism giving the option to opt-out?
Re:Organ donation in England has moved to an opt-out system
by al_chemist on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @07:24PM
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"If you don't like government ideas, why don't you move somewhere else?"
Moving out is the best opt-out ever. (until pandemic hits and you can't move out)
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hospital-errors-lead-to-dead-pa...