> I am perfectly willing to admit that my primary motivation here is the acceptance of transgender people. I don't know what to tell you if you don't prioritize that over the sanctity of the outcome of some high school girls soccer game.

Here's the problem (aside from deriding something a lot of average people care deeply about): you are forcing these two things to be in conflict, when they simply aren't to most people, including Joe Rogan (and myself). By forcing them into conflict, you are hurting the cause of transgender rights far more than helping it.

Banning trans women from competing in sports it telling them they aren't "real" women. The societal repercussions of that are much larger than the outcome of high school athletics (and this issue is almost always about high school athletics and below). I fundamentally don't understand arguments to the contrary.

For the record, I care deeply about sports. I think it is fundamental part of both our culture at large and the education of a lot of people. You can dig deep into my comment history on HN and see I regularly defend the importance of sports to the usually derogatory "sportsball" comments that are common in intellectual and technological communities like HN. I just don't think the outcome of specific games is important enough to justify further ostracizing a group of people who are already incredibly marginalized.

I don’t understand equating competing in a sport as representative of being a “real” [gender].

I support trans+ rights, but I haven’t been able to get my head around some of the assertions that seem to be bedrock here.

> You are exaggerating with that first claim. It is in no way common for high school male athletes to be competitive against world class female athletes.

They're not though.

https://www.reddit.com/r/sports/comments/3ceeih/the_us_mens_...

That's the best under 17 soccer players. It's essentially people who will be pro soccer players in 1-2 years. That's not the same as common hs male athletes.

The US Men's U-17 team is not a high school team. It is a team made up of world class athletes who are high school aged. That is a huge distinction. You are saying a team a world class men can beat a team of slightly older world class women. That isn't surprising.

The US women's team is best in the world, US men's team doesn't even come close to being best 20 teams in the world. They are high level athletes but not world class (especially for soccer) by any sorts.

Anyway's here another link: https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-dallas-fc-under-15-b...

I know you don't care about the high school girls soccer game, but the girls do, and their parents do.

And yes, having women's sports not be dominated by former men is a priority for people.