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Re:Electrons May Well Be Conscious by disgruntledphd2 on Monday May 18, 2020 @12:20PM (#23224446)
Yes, but we cannot measure pain "objectively" at all. The equivalent would be if we could build a CPU, but could only determine how fast it could process by asking it to rate its processing power on a scale of 0 to 10.
Re:Electrons May Well Be Conscious by Retric on Monday May 18, 2020 @02:06PM (#23226117)
Nothing is stopping a more technologically capable civilization from directly measuring our pain. You’re describing a purely technical limitation.

We have plenty of ways of directly measuring people‘s brains and CPU’s energy use etc. The issue is speed and resolution which is hardly a philosophical limitation.