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Re:Electrons May Well Be Conscious by Retric on Monday May 18, 2020 @10:36AM (#23222812)
People are not uniform templates using identical DNA and histories. Our bodies are different which means our subjective experiences are different. That’s both consistent and expected.

As to measurement, we can design and build modern CPU’s but can’t inspect them in full speed operation. Similarly, mechanics often need to take something apart to test it. Living organisms present a more complex challenge, but the similarities are obvious.

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Re:Electrons May Well Be Conscious by disgruntledphd2 on Monday May 18, 2020 @12:20PM (#23224446)
Yes, but we cannot measure pain "objectively" at all. The equivalent would be if we could build a CPU, but could only determine how fast it could process by asking it to rate its processing power on a scale of 0 to 10.
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Re:Electrons May Well Be Conscious by Retric on Monday May 18, 2020 @02:06PM (#23226117)
Nothing is stopping a more technologically capable civilization from directly measuring our pain. You’re describing a purely technical limitation.

We have plenty of ways of directly measuring people‘s brains and CPU’s energy use etc. The issue is speed and resolution which is hardly a philosophical limitation.

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