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Re:Our Chrome Extension Is Safe by schoolornot on Friday May 15, 2020 @12:58PM (#23194427)
Can someone from Google use a throwaway to explain why the hell their support is garbage. From the Chrome store, to G-Suite, to Pixel Support. It's just awful.
Re:Our Chrome Extension Is Safe by dividuum on Friday May 15, 2020 @01:20PM (#23194722)
Maybe that's a glimpse into the shitty future we're building for outselves: Judged by unexplainable results from machine learning decisions. No one except some machine is to blame and maybe their support could not even provide a useful explanation even if they cared. Maybe the pushbullet extension just used if-statements in a way that was a bit too close to how scammy extensions organize their code. </tinfoil-hat>
Re:Our Chrome Extension Is Safe by Uw7yTcf36gTc on Friday May 15, 2020 @01:04PM (#23194522)
Is it really hard to understand? The answer is always money.
Re:Our Chrome Extension Is Safe by smexy on Friday May 15, 2020 @01:27PM (#23194792)
I'd add, an undue faith in The Algorithms.
Re:Our Chrome Extension Is Safe by slg on Friday May 15, 2020 @01:15PM (#23194660)
Are there any examples of free services that don't directly make a company money that include great support? I am struggling to think of any.
Re:Our Chrome Extension Is Safe by danieldk on Friday May 15, 2020 @02:24PM (#23195545)
Since when are G Suite and Pixel phones free products?
Re:Our Chrome Extension Is Safe by slg on Friday May 15, 2020 @02:36PM (#23195679)
Fair enough. I was mainly talking about this specific instance. From what I have heard, the G Suite and Pixel phone support is bad, but it isn't downright non-existent like it was here.
Re:Our Chrome Extension Is Safe by ferzul on Friday May 15, 2020 @04:16PM (#23196891)
google has chosen their pricing model tho. if it makes extensions a burden they should probably do something different
Re:Our Chrome Extension Is Safe by techbio on Friday May 15, 2020 @01:16PM (#23194671)
Money, sure, but it's power ahead of that. The average consumer cannot bargain.
Re:Our Chrome Extension Is Safe by ferzul on Friday May 15, 2020 @04:15PM (#23196877)
insufficient and ineffective regulation. imagine if they were actually held to account
Re:Our Chrome Extension Is Safe by asdf21 on Friday May 15, 2020 @01:01PM (#23194477)
Always has been for 10+ years now.

As a former Call Center Director, it's pretty amazing to me how much bad-will these massive companies are willing to foment by not running their support correctly.

It's not that hard / expensive guys... you can hire great support employees for $20 / hour all across America.

Re:Our Chrome Extension Is Safe by oefrha on Friday May 15, 2020 @01:49PM (#23195068)
Are these great $20/hr support engineers the kind I often deal with over email or phone, who usually employ canned responses, can’t solve off-script problems, tend to repeat the same unhelpful responses, and are sometimes indistinguishable from bots?
Re:Our Chrome Extension Is Safe by asdf21 on Friday May 15, 2020 @02:12PM (#23195385)
Those are $9.25 an hour support agents who are paid mostly to get you off the phone and take 70 calls a day.

Or their $10.25 an hour tier 3 "supervisors" who you might escalate the call to.

Re:Our Chrome Extension Is Safe by patrickbolle on Friday May 15, 2020 @02:32PM (#23195632)
Look towards Shopify Support Gurus. Paid well, fully remote. As a Shopify Partner I deal with them a lot and have never had a bad experience; while some can't always answer my question, I always speak to a human (24/7 via live chat) and they direct my query in the right direction.
Re:Our Chrome Extension Is Safe by ashtonkem on Friday May 15, 2020 @01:12PM (#23194625)
Support is also one of the most remote friendly forms of work available, and often benefits from spreading workers over multiple time zones.
Re:Our Chrome Extension Is Safe by rapind on Friday May 15, 2020 @01:18PM (#23194697)
Much of customer support is like the close doors button on an elevator. It doesn't actually do anything, but makes you feel like it does.
Re:Our Chrome Extension Is Safe by kube-system on Friday May 15, 2020 @01:34PM (#23194878)
It's much more expensive than not having it.

Back of the napkin math for 1 billion users and a 1:100 support staff ratio comes out to around 5.8 billion dollars/yr.

Re:Our Chrome Extension Is Safe by asdf21 on Sunday May 17, 2020 @04:08PM (#23214953)
This is developer support, not user support.
Re:Our Chrome Extension Is Safe by someonehere on Friday May 15, 2020 @02:25PM (#23195554)
I know from an associate that their experience with GCP makes it seem like they aren’t able to handle the edge cases for customers. My associate tells me that GCP sales team will talk up all the capabilities, but when it comes time to move from a competing provider, it’s like a new road for them. Unforeseen outages because something that scaled well in AWS/Azure is not scaling as it should in GCP. Chalk it up to new learnings for the team, but having to reach out to GCP to fix or allow something that AWS/Azure already makes easy to do shouldn’t be difficult, or a surprise.