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Re:In Defense of the Modern Web by ss3000 on Friday May 15, 2020 @10:10AM (#23192377)
If they dived deeper into the usage patterns and broke down app usage by specific apps, I'd suspect a vast majority of that time is spent in a tiny handful of popular apps, since there are also countless studies pointing to the fact that consumers don't install more than a handful of native apps.

If you remove time spent in those popular apps and their respective websites from the stats, the data would likely paint a vastly different story (that might not be in the best interest for a site that relies on pushing "Launching mobile apps for your WordPress site" to highlight ofc).

Re:In Defense of the Modern Web by danjac on Saturday May 16, 2020 @05:56AM (#23202067)
I also wonder how much the current epidemic and increased migration towards WFH will affect native mobile app usage, particularly among non-driving commuters. People will be using desktops more for casual browsing, and thus likely to be using web browsers outside of a small number of desktop apps (office suites, games and so on).
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Re:In Defense of the Modern Web by acdha on Friday May 15, 2020 @11:40AM (#23193442)
Alternately, “If you don’t assume that all usage is fungible, the data tells a different story”. There are a few apps - music/movies/ebooks and Facebook - which get a disproportionately large amount of activity. If you’re not competing with them, the global numbers are going to be skewed.

This is especially true when you think about tasks rather than screen time. If I’m Facebook or Spotify selling ads, I want people glued to the app for a long time. If I’m selling things, giving information or customer service, etc. the story is completely different: someone placing an order faster is actually a win.

EDIT: My experience is colored by being in the cultural heritage space where the flurry of “we’re in the App Store!!!” entries met the hard reality of every engagement metric being much lower than web sites. There is huge variation hidden in global averages.

Re:In Defense of the Modern Web by karatestomp on Friday May 15, 2020 @11:00AM (#23192943)
Well, "90% of user time on devices is in native apps, 10% web" does paint a rather different picture than "70% of user time is in social media and messaging apps, 10% media apps like Netflix or Spotify, 5% mobile games, 5% all other apps including all the built-in ones other than the browser, 10% web" if you're not in social media, media, or games and trying to decide whether to go web or native.
Re:In Defense of the Modern Web by brlewis on Friday May 15, 2020 @11:47AM (#23193552)
Wait, are you saying that "90% of mobile time is spent in apps vs 10% in browsers" tells the story that "consumers vastly prefer native apps"? I don't think the connection is that strong.

Taking myself as an example, I may spend 90% of my time on my cell phone using the Messages app, the Phone app and a handful of apps that I installed a long time ago, but I'm much more likely to try out a new web app than I am to try out a new native app. Looking at my phone now, I see exactly one native app that I installed in 2020.

Re:In Defense of the Modern Web by JamesBarney on Friday May 15, 2020 @12:04PM (#23193743)
Based on my and my friend's preferences, we prefer mobile app for apps they will be using a lot and trust, like Facebook/Slack/Twitter/Email, and want to use the web for apps we rarely use or don't trust as much.

Op is arguing that based on our intuition the data aggregated at that level doesn't distinguish between this more complex story and the simple one of "people prefer apps".

Re:In Defense of the Modern Web by Isomorpheus on Friday May 15, 2020 @10:47AM (#23192786)
Or

"It's often useful to take context into account when evaluating statistics"

Re:In Defense of the Modern Web by jakelazaroff on Friday May 15, 2020 @11:01AM (#23192955)
If some of the data are outliers, they arguably should be removed.