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Re:Latest Windows 10 Update Could Hurt Your PC by buro9 on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @01:44PM (#23169488)
Ah, this may explain an unexpected looping BSOD that started a few days after that date.

I started getting a KMODE Exception Not Handled BSOD with no driver listed. Have done full diagnostics of memory, graphics card, everything... even in safe mode without networking it would still BSOD shortly after boot.

I reinstalled Windows, applied updates... and it happened again.

It's quite vicious if this is it... there's not a lot one can do about this. Well, I flipped to a Linux laptop instead.

Re:Latest Windows 10 Update Could Hurt Your PC by NikolaeVarius on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @01:40PM (#23169434)
Dumb clickbait title. I consider claims of "hurting" my PC to mean that a hardware issue could occur, not that it could introduce a bug.
Re:Latest Windows 10 Update Could Hurt Your PC by discreditable on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @02:03PM (#23169739)
Am I the only person who installs updates as soon as they come out, yolo'ing them at my org and has no problems at all?
Re:Latest Windows 10 Update Could Hurt Your PC by jaywalk on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @02:15PM (#23169897)
No, that's pretty much what I've done since well before Windows 10.
Re:Latest Windows 10 Update Could Hurt Your PC by pinfisher on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @01:39PM (#23169423)
April 14th update? Seems like old news.
Re:Latest Windows 10 Update Could Hurt Your PC by da_chicken on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @01:55PM (#23169622)
Definitely. This article is from April 23.

The MS KB article says they saw reports on social media but didn't get any telemetry or customer feedback: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4549951/windows-10-...

Of course, if the update leaves your system in an unbootable state you'd expect there to be no telemetry, and the only thing I can imagine more like a black hole than feedback to MS would be feedback to Google, IBM or Oracle.

Re:Latest Windows 10 Update Could Hurt Your PC by wolfi1 on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @01:44PM (#23169490)
i thought the same. as there are security updates this month I would (and will) install at least those considered critical
Re:Latest Windows 10 Update Could Hurt Your PC by minikites on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @01:52PM (#23169578)
>Windows 10 users are reporting crashes like the Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) after installing the April 14th update

Why is this getting posted the day after May's Patch Tuesday? The title is incredibly misleading.

Re:Latest Windows 10 Update Could Hurt Your PC by tatersolid on Thursday May 14, 2020 @07:01AM (#23178003)
Someone has a working exploit patched two days ago, and they want to extend its useful life by sowing confusion.

A disinformation campaign targeted at technical site seems like an interesting approach, as we HN types provide advice to the non-technical folks around us.

Re:Latest Windows 10 Update Could Hurt Your PC by xtiansimon on Thursday May 14, 2020 @06:43AM (#23177882)
Dammit. I’m telecommuting with LogMeIn and last week Outlook’s email search bar inexplicably moved to the top of the screen. And yesterday one of my monitors was just a black screen. After logging out and back in the problem went away. After reading this post, I’m more nervous.

Hey Microsoft! Think you can take a break on non-security updates?

/panic rant

Re:Latest Windows 10 Update Could Hurt Your PC by godzillabrennus on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @01:39PM (#23169420)
I only use Windows to play games. Can’t imagine how bad this could be for small businesses that rely on it.
Re:Latest Windows 10 Update Could Hurt Your PC by downerending on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @01:51PM (#23169571)
I'm a (very) long-time Linux user, and somewhat sad to say, Windows often seems like a better "client" OS (e.g., for connecting to Linux servers).

I retry the Linux GUI occasionally, but usually bounce off within a few days. Maybe I'm doing it wrong.

Re:Latest Windows 10 Update Could Hurt Your PC by tasubotadas on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @01:41PM (#23169440)
Obviously, Linux and Mac updates are problem-free.
Re:Latest Windows 10 Update Could Hurt Your PC by centimeter on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @01:51PM (#23169561)
Linux updates are famously vastly more convenient and reliable than Windows or Mac updates. No forced updates, usually no restart required, usually no breaking changes, usually no BS. I can't say that about either Mac or Windows.
Re:Latest Windows 10 Update Could Hurt Your PC by da_chicken on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @02:00PM (#23169700)
Linux just doesn't tell you when you need to reboot. You (or the package manager) has to know that updating something will affect a library that a running program has loaded, and you need to restart it to actually patch your system.

Some package managers handle it better than others, but the popular idea of "never need to restart to update" is super misleading when the reality is "updates on disk, doesn't update in-memory unless you restart that program". Windows' file locking system is really inconvenient, but it does have some knock-on benefits.

Re:Latest Windows 10 Update Could Hurt Your PC by tasubotadas on Thursday May 14, 2020 @04:59AM (#23177171)
Well, I had my workstation in a broken state after updates many more times on Linux (Gentoo, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Arch) than on Windows. Actually, I haven't ever experienced these "broken" updates on Windows 10.

The update process might be more convenient and more transparent on Linux but it's definitely not as stable as on Windows.

Re:Latest Windows 10 Update Could Hurt Your PC by ThrowawayR2 on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @03:09PM (#23170539)
Tell that to the two machines that were rendered unbootable because of a recent Ubuntu update.
Re:Latest Windows 10 Update Could Hurt Your PC by tempfs on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @01:53PM (#23169590)
Mac updates are definitely problematic, but I honestly can't remember the last time running apt dist-upgrade has ever broken anything on Debian.
Re:Latest Windows 10 Update Could Hurt Your PC by vmchale on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @01:53PM (#23169580)
I've heard good things about NixOS. In any case, they're usually clearer about what's being upgraded.
Re:Latest Windows 10 Update Could Hurt Your PC by vorpalhex on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @01:51PM (#23169562)
This is pretty clickbaity, any chance we can get a more professional source with additional details?
Re:Latest Windows 10 Update Could Hurt Your PC by GeekyBear on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @01:57PM (#23169654)
>In addition to BSoD crashes and connectivity issues, users are also reporting that their settings are being removed and files deleted.

https://betanews.com/2020/04/23/kb4549951-crash-file-deletio...

Re:Latest Windows 10 Update Could Hurt Your PC by CrankyBear on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @01:47PM (#23169518)
I don't trust Any Windows 10 updates anymore. There's always something.
Re:Latest Windows 10 Update Could Hurt Your PC by ravenstine on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @01:41PM (#23169448)
This is exactly why I turn off automatic updates for everything, and only update once the canaries have left the coal mine. Automatic updates might be good for keeping the masses secure, but if you're between that and a power-user then they add too much unpredictability into the system, even if something bad happens only once in a blue moon.
Re:Latest Windows 10 Update Could Hurt Your PC by shawnz on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @01:56PM (#23169639)
> if you're between that and a power-user then they add too much unpredictability into the system, even if something bad happens only once in a blue moon.

What's the cost-benefit analysis on that? I have literally never had an issue installing updates on the day of release at least since Windows 10 was released, so spending even a few days thinking about it already seems like a wasted cost to me.