America’s Havana: Thousands Say “Ciao” to San Francisco

Re:America’s Havana: Thousands Say “Ciao” to San Francisco by tjr225 on Tuesday May 12, 2020 @07:28PM (#23161373)

A milquetoast hit piece of a beautiful city.

We’re all aware of SFs problems, not sure why this article is worth even a glance.

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Re:America’s Havana: Thousands Say “Ciao” to San Francisco by refurb on Tuesday May 12, 2020 @07:33PM (#23161416)

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi congratulated her in a tweet, saying, “I look forward to working with you to continue San Francisco’s proud tradition of standing as a guiding light for progress across America.”

Are you disagreeing with Nancy then? Since the 60's SF has had a continuous (60 years!) progressive rule and this is what we end up with.

Looking at the major problems in SF, I see a direct link to SF government policies:

Crime - stop locking people up!

Homelessness - we just need to spend more money!

Schooling - we just need more money!

Housing - unless it's subsidized, we'll block it every time

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Re:America’s Havana: Thousands Say “Ciao” to San Francisco by mc32 on Tuesday May 12, 2020 @07:35PM (#23161438)

Because for decades liberalist idealism hasn’t effectively addressed the issues and people keep on thinking that the problem is they’re not liberal enough and double down on it(DA Budin). Although if ND is any representation some people are experiencing buyers’ remorse... We’ll see.

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Re:America’s Havana: Thousands Say “Ciao” to San Francisco by refurb on Tuesday May 12, 2020 @07:43PM (#23161513)

Reminds me of the US during the Vietnam War. Things weren't going well and when asked why, the answer was always "We need more. More soldiers. More bombs."

Never even entertained the thought the entire approach was wrong.

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Re:America’s Havana: Thousands Say “Ciao” to San Francisco by dpoochieni on Tuesday May 12, 2020 @07:45PM (#23161532)

Oooof, spot on. They have governed pretty much unimpeded and what do they have 60 years later? The city might be great in some aspects but it is so in spite of its government not because of it.

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Re:America’s Havana: Thousands Say “Ciao” to San Francisco by ravenstine on Tuesday May 12, 2020 @07:35PM (#23161440)

Maybe because SF has been sucking all the oxygen out of the room and people continually apologize for all of its shortcomings and bad decisions. There's a lot I like about SF, but it's easily the most putrid city in America I've ever lived in.

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Re:America’s Havana: Thousands Say “Ciao” to San Francisco by dajohnson89 on Tuesday May 12, 2020 @07:35PM (#23161434)

SF's problems are serious enough to warrant discussion. That being said, there is a growing narrative on the right of how the urban (read:liberal) centers are failing. This article is one of many such hit pieces.

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Re:America’s Havana: Thousands Say “Ciao” to San Francisco by wyclif on Sunday May 17, 2020 @08:21AM (#23211452)

Wait, this is a "hit piece" because it discusses SF's problems?

I find it absolutely astounding that people somehow think that SF's problems weren't caused by a specific set of policy proposals and politics. Yet, if anyone brings this up, even in a nonpartisan manner, all of a sudden the criticism is supposedly nullified because it's not coming from "our people". I find that more than a tad self-serving and duplicitous.

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