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Re:Why is the stock market rallying when the economy is so bad? by cm2187 on Sunday May 10, 2020 @05:46PM (#23136538)
At the end of the day, stock prices have to be justified by earnings. A massive over valuation isn’t sustainable for very long.
Re:Why is the stock market rallying when the economy is so bad? by christophilus on Sunday May 10, 2020 @06:02PM (#23136692)
I wonder. Investing is all about relative yield. If stocks return 0.5% and treasuries return -4%, stocks will sustain higher ratios than the historical mean.

But I’m putting my money where your mouth is and betting on a correction.

Re:Why is the stock market rallying when the economy is so bad? by cm2187 on Sunday May 10, 2020 @06:08PM (#23136745)
True but you are taking say a -30% loss risk for only 0.5% expected return. I don’t think any risk manager is going to be very comfortable with that risk/reward.
Re:Why is the stock market rallying when the economy is so bad? by chii on Monday May 11, 2020 @02:48AM (#23139495)
> -30% loss risk for only 0.5% expected return.

vs the alternative - a guaranteed loss of 4%?

And the expectation of only 0.5% return is only going to be short term. Long term recovery is a good bet imho.

Re:Why is the stock market rallying when the economy is so bad? by xvilka on Sunday May 10, 2020 @11:02PM (#23138515)
Just use dynamic hedging, risks will be smaller.
Re:Why is the stock market rallying when the economy is so bad? by HPsquared on Sunday May 10, 2020 @08:04PM (#23137498)
Cash might have a similar risk (inflation).
Re:Why is the stock market rallying when the economy is so bad? by refurb on Sunday May 10, 2020 @06:13PM (#23136790)
Stock prices are forward looking - what do you expect the stock to do in the future.

That's how you end up with companies with negative net income having valuations in the billions.

Re:Why is the stock market rallying when the economy is so bad? by bo1024 on Sunday May 10, 2020 @06:05PM (#23136711)
Why? A lot of the value of a stock is ability to resell at a high price later. If everyone (including U.S. Fed and gov) agrees to continue to push prices high for the forseeable future, then it seems like prices can lose connection to e.g. ownership in a company.
Re:Why is the stock market rallying when the economy is so bad? by empath75 on Sunday May 10, 2020 @06:06PM (#23136726)
That’s the definition of a bubble.
Re:Why is the stock market rallying when the economy is so bad? by enraged_camel on Sunday May 10, 2020 @06:54PM (#23137079)
Yeah, it made me laugh that the OP stated it in such a matter-of-fact fashion, as if it’s normal or good.
Re:Why is the stock market rallying when the economy is so bad? by bo1024 on Sunday May 10, 2020 @09:41PM (#23138089)
If you're talking about me, I don't think it's normal or good! But I do think it's a matter of fact.
Re:Why is the stock market rallying when the economy is so bad? by bo1024 on Sunday May 10, 2020 @09:40PM (#23138086)
I agree, or pretty close. But it's not axiomatic that bubbles always pop (at least on the time span one expects).
Re:Why is the stock market rallying when the economy is so bad? by chii on Monday May 11, 2020 @02:50AM (#23139510)
> But it's not axiomatic that bubbles always pop

You can only call it a bubble once it pops. So therefore, it is axiomatic. This stock "bubble" might not pop, and hence, it might not be a bubble.

Re:Why is the stock market rallying when the economy is so bad? by bo1024 on Tuesday May 12, 2020 @02:47PM (#23158008)
Your definition of bubble and the one I was replying to are fundamentally incompatible - I don’t really care which term one uses though