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Re:We Chat, They Watch by midasz on Friday May 08, 2020 @04:02AM (#23112480)
Meh I can kind of understand why the site is deemed questionable. It's paid for by a Republican political consulting firm. It may not be orchestrated by the Trump campaign but they definitely condone it. According to Snopes some parts of it can also be deemed as misinformation (like the picture framed as Biden groping Stephanie Carter).

So to me it's in the grey area bordering on black, but I'm also not a fan of this type of campaigning (playing on the man).The fact that they try to present it as an actual Biden website is also questionable.

Re:We Chat, They Watch by kart23 on Friday May 08, 2020 @05:18AM (#23112864)
So?

Are we really at the point where we can defend censorship of a website that doesn't have any illegal content, no links to illegal content, and the purpose of which is not to do anything illegal, but whose only purpose make ones political opinions known.

On Facebook messenger, one of the biggest messaging apps in the world. This is honestly disgusting, and I think they are going to face backlash for it.

Re:We Chat, They Watch by midasz on Friday May 08, 2020 @12:14PM (#23116395)
So you're fine with the fact that they are purposefully spreading misinformation? Then just say that you're OK with that (if it suits your agenda, of course) instead of downvoting.
Re:We Chat, They Watch by hwillis on Friday May 08, 2020 @12:38PM (#23116646)
> According to Snopes some parts of it can also be deemed as misinformation (like the picture framed as Biden groping Stephanie Carter).

It has the full, unedited video segment, and you can't even send that site in a direct message to a facebook friend. You're making a motte and bailey to try to defend one of the largest companies on earth directly interfering in what I can say to a single other person. Maintaining a community is one thing. This is quite another.

Re:We Chat, They Watch by yeetman21 on Friday May 08, 2020 @08:45AM (#23114196)
they're a private company and can do whatever they want
Re:We Chat, They Watch by typenil on Friday May 08, 2020 @10:24AM (#23115148)
It's always odd to me when someone is talking about a public backlash and this is the response.

Did they say anything about legality? Facebook is free to do what it wants and the public is free to criticize it.

Legality isn't a magic shield against criticism.

Re:We Chat, They Watch by yeetman21 on Friday May 08, 2020 @10:10PM (#23121580)
>defend censorship of a website that doesn't have any illegal content

yes

Re:We Chat, They Watch by SkyBelow on Friday May 08, 2020 @11:52AM (#23116145)
Except they generally can't. See limits on who they can hire and what speech they can engage in. So we already limit the powers of companies to protect the rights of people even though we could have just told the people work/shop/go somewhere else. Why doesn't that logic also extend to speech?
Re:We Chat, They Watch by andreilys on Friday May 08, 2020 @09:23AM (#23114573)
Sure, and we as citizens can hold these private companies accountable by voicing our concerns to our government representatives who can enact legislation to prevent companies from doing whatever they want.
Re:We Chat, They Watch by yeetman21 on Friday May 08, 2020 @10:11PM (#23121586)
and they as a billion dollar company can voice their concerns to lobbyist who will then convince the government to do nothing
Re:We Chat, They Watch by 101404 on Friday May 08, 2020 @12:10PM (#23116364)
So if TMobile or Verizon would drop your call, because you mentioned some political candidate's name, that would be completely okay with you?
Re:We Chat, They Watch by midasz on Friday May 08, 2020 @12:19PM (#23116450)
Are you comparing facebook to a utility company? But honestly, misinformation in this day and age is such a huge problem. If a source is willfully spreading misinformation (that can be fact checked) then yeah, why should they be allowed to do that? They have absolutely no value, except for the people trying to deceive in order to further their agendas.
Re:We Chat, They Watch by 101404 on Friday May 08, 2020 @08:11PM (#23120918)
So a single billionaire should decide what people can and can not talk about?

My guess is you are a Monarchist then?

Re:We Chat, They Watch by andreilys on Friday May 08, 2020 @02:47PM (#23118062)
Facebook for most people is effectively a utility in all but name.