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Re:Finnish basic income pilot improved wellbeing, study finds by ChuckNorris89 on Thursday May 07, 2020 @04:09PM (#23107652)
>So far, I haven't seen the explosion in creativity, entrepreneurship, volunteering etc that's usually promised.

That's because most people don't have the ambition and discipline of Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos and if given the chance would rather bum around their whole life instead of work.

I see the same thing in Austria and so do my friends living in other wealthy European countries with strong social nets.

Most people, if given easy access to welfare, would rather lower their standard of living to fit in that small sum of money and not do anything all day rather than use their free time to hustle, learn a new skill or build a business that will permit them a higher standard of living later on.

Re:Finnish basic income pilot improved wellbeing, study finds by valesco on Thursday May 07, 2020 @07:33PM (#23109640)
But why would you get into unpleasant endeavors if they are not gratifying and you already have everything you need to live a basic life? This is ideology.
Re:Finnish basic income pilot improved wellbeing, study finds by qmmmur on Thursday May 07, 2020 @04:42PM (#23108051)
Shocking. People would rather enjoy life not working as hard as hustling (code for taking big risk without much payoff) to get more money to buy more stuff.
Re:Finnish basic income pilot improved wellbeing, study finds by lonelappde on Thursday May 07, 2020 @05:19PM (#23108494)
Problem is, we'll never cure cancer if no one is motivated to solve hard problems.
Re:Finnish basic income pilot improved wellbeing, study finds by qmmmur on Thursday May 07, 2020 @05:28PM (#23108587)
I'm not sure what your experience is but research is vastly different to commercial enterprise and there is a massive motivational difference between curing cancer and making CRUD apps to get your 'side hustle' on.

In my experience in highly funded research groups that run outside out of traditional management (translation annoying and wasteful tertiary education administration) researchers that make an impact get on just fine and produce excellent results on a liveable wage and being given the space to do their jobs. In my mind, the highly masculine and overly aggressive capitalist mindset that competition == results is either untrue or false and discounts a wide range of motivations, personalities and skill sets which do things of interest or worth in intellectual jobs.