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Re:Neiman Marcus files for bankruptcy by cik on Thursday May 07, 2020 @02:10PM (#23106143)
You'd be surprised. The cost of rubbish clothing has fallen, but then the cost of very reasonable mid-quality has dramatically fallen. I used to buy Levis, then Gap for mid range. Now, I get the same quality (and literally the same factory) jeans from Joe Fresh, for 1/4th to 1/5th of the price.

Suit shirts are the same. An online tailor I've been using for a decade sells shirts at half the price of Banana Republic (comparing to Canada), but mine are bespoke, perfectly fitted, and I can make choices from a website. To wit, I've stopped buying shirts in stores and now just use their service... since 2008. To make matters worse for retailers, his quality has improved at the price point.

Retail is hard.

Re:Neiman Marcus files for bankruptcy by kevstev on Thursday May 07, 2020 @03:54PM (#23107449)
What online tailor do you use? I have a local guy who charges fairly reasonable prices but it would be interesting to compare...
Re:Neiman Marcus files for bankruptcy by ghaff on Thursday May 07, 2020 @04:28PM (#23107899)
As someone who knows very little about the fashion business--though I have had tailored clothing made--I'm a little surprised that more of a market for bespoke online ordering hasn't developed. Sure, you'll "never" get to the level of an in-person tailor with multiple fittings. But one would think that there would be a fair number of people willing to pay something of a premium for at least roughly customized clothing. I know that exists for shirts but, as I recall from when I used to buy more business casual, it was still a very big premium over buying stuff that fit me reasonably from Lands' End.
Re:Neiman Marcus files for bankruptcy by cik on Saturday May 09, 2020 @11:36PM (#23130100)
Online tailors have solved that by partnering/paying for local alterations. They come into town X times per year (4-5?) for those who want the ongoing bespoke relationship. Then, when your clothes arrive, you can take them to a tailor to have them altered if necessary - paid for by the tailor, and your details updated, paid for by the tailor.
Re:Neiman Marcus files for bankruptcy by listenallyall on Thursday May 07, 2020 @11:44PM (#23111203)
Every men's shirt on JoeFresh.com is either $24 or $29. What Gap do you shop at where prices are 4 or 5x higher? I'd use jeans for a comparison but they aren't on the web site.
Re:Neiman Marcus files for bankruptcy by cik on Saturday May 09, 2020 @11:35PM (#23130094)
Joe is frequently $15. Further, it's frequently 20% off at that point. But from a jeans perspective Gap jeans are $79, and the pair I'm wearing where $20. In January I paid $35 for two.
Re:Neiman Marcus files for bankruptcy by listenallyall on Sunday May 10, 2020 @07:25PM (#23137269)
Anyone who pays $79 for Gap jeans is a comically terrible shopper.