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Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by alexbanks on Thursday May 07, 2020 @01:51PM (#23105894)
Is it possible to get a ThinkPad without the rubber thing in the center of the keyboard?
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by vinay427 on Thursday May 07, 2020 @01:53PM (#23105916)
Ha, meanwhile I wouldn't buy a ThinkPad (or any other laptop) without it.

As for your question, I've never heard of at least the "real" ThinkPad series laptops (X/W/T/...) sold without the TrackPoint. Does it really bother you when typing? If it's the appearance, you can likely find a black nib for purchase or maybe remove the included nib and blacken it out.

Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by dgzl on Thursday May 07, 2020 @01:59PM (#23105992)
Same. Once I learned how to use it, I can't go back.

Recently my work laptop was switched to a Dell without the nub and I noticed reduced workflow immediately.

Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by oefrha on Thursday May 07, 2020 @02:30PM (#23106403)
I grew up a fan of the track point, back when trackpads were either nonexistent or hot garbage (at least on PC laptops). Which is to say I definitely “learned how to use it”. Then I switched to Mac laptops a decade ago. Since then I’ve got to touch the track point a few more times and it felt so dated. People still tout the precision, but I can get the same level of precision on a quality trackpad, plus much needed fluidity in general, not to mention multitouch gestures.
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by jaifraic on Thursday May 07, 2020 @02:48PM (#23106659)
For me, it's not about precision. With the Trackpoint I can rest my hands on the Keyboard/Homerow and I can use the pointer without having to move my hands at all.
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by oefrha on Thursday May 07, 2020 @02:54PM (#23106736)
That’s fair. I personally don’t mix typing and trackpad usage very much so that advantage is pretty minimal for me.
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by dgzl on Thursday May 07, 2020 @03:04PM (#23106878)
I think the advantage is bigger than you believe, and I would bet you mix typing/trackpad more than you believe also.
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by oefrha on Thursday May 07, 2020 @03:09PM (#23106945)
Could be, but I’m positive that I use gestures more than I mix typing/trackpad, so there’s that.
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by dgzl on Thursday May 07, 2020 @03:32PM (#23107186)
Overall I think you'd still be faster in keyboard, but gestures and such offer a lot in terms of simplicity which is a fair trade a lot of the time. If your workflow revolves around typing however, I would still put trackpoint above.
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by dgzl on Thursday May 07, 2020 @02:53PM (#23106723)
As the other commenter said, the benefit comes from keeping your fingers on home-row, not precision.
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by tilolebo on Thursday May 07, 2020 @05:35PM (#23108648)
I had to disable the track point in the BIOS of my X1 carbon 5th Gen, otherwise it would completely freeze the OS on Ubuntu 18.04.

I never found a solution for this. I hope they fixed it in the newer gens.

The touchpad was also really annoying when I had to select and scroll.

Apart from that it was a fine laptop, but IMO the XPS 13 is a bit better.

Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by alexbanks on Thursday May 07, 2020 @02:13PM (#23106169)
I'd have to try. It seems really awful from a typing perspective, but everyone's different.
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by bfrog on Thursday May 07, 2020 @06:47PM (#23109270)
It's excellent for typing, you don't need to leave home row
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by alexbanks on Sunday May 10, 2020 @07:28PM (#23137286)
But....isn't it for the mouse? Why do you use your mouse while typing?
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by randlet on Thursday May 07, 2020 @01:56PM (#23105942)
I don't use the trackpoint but it's also never presented even the slightest issue to me when typing.
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by soperj on Thursday May 07, 2020 @02:28PM (#23106379)
it's literally the best thing about a Thinkpad. I turn my trackpad off as my first step when getting a new thinkpad.
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by Mikeb85 on Thursday May 07, 2020 @03:24PM (#23107111)
Why would you want that? Being able to control the mouse cursor without your hands leaving a typing position is great, and the entire point.
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by snazz on Thursday May 07, 2020 @02:44PM (#23106594)
You can pull the rubber TrackPoint cover off and disable the sensor in the BIOS, but the trackpads on these laptops aren't always great (at least if you're used to MacBooks). I've learned to like it, but I can see how it might be a dealbreaker for some people.
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by minikites on Thursday May 07, 2020 @01:54PM (#23105929)
You can remove it or replace it with a one in a different shape or size.
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by daffy on Thursday May 07, 2020 @02:30PM (#23106398)
I'd rather have one without the trackpad (and the backdoor).