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Re:The AMD Ryzen 3 3300X and 3100 CPU Review: A Budget Gamin... by derefr on Thursday May 07, 2020 @01:08PM (#23105374)
> and then you need to spend 50-100€ to just get boot graphics even though the machine will be headless 99% of the time.

Buy a serial-over-USB patch cable; connect it from the NAS to your laptop; open an STTY emulator on the laptop. No boot graphics needed.

Re:The AMD Ryzen 3 3300X and 3100 CPU Review: A Budget Gamin... by toast0 on Thursday May 07, 2020 @01:20PM (#23105534)
Still need something for boot graphics for the BIOS, unless non-server motherboards are coming with serial redirection default enabled and nobody mentioned it.
Re:The AMD Ryzen 3 3300X and 3100 CPU Review: A Budget Gamin... by kllrnohj on Thursday May 07, 2020 @01:46PM (#23105834)
Set it up with a temporary card and then yank it out after it's setup. You don't tend to access the BIOS that much.
Re:The AMD Ryzen 3 3300X and 3100 CPU Review: A Budget Gamin... by ciupicri on Thursday May 07, 2020 @02:26PM (#23106352)
I wonder if it's possible to set up the UEFI firmware by setting some EFI variables from the operating system for example by running efivar [1].

[1]: https://github.com/rhboot/efivar

Re:The AMD Ryzen 3 3300X and 3100 CPU Review: A Budget Gamin... by derefr on Thursday May 07, 2020 @02:29PM (#23106394)
I mean, why not use a server motherboard (i.e. one supporting AMT; not necessarily one that requires RDIMMs) if you're building a NAS? NASes are servers in terms of their workload. Take advantages of the features designed for server customers.
Re:The AMD Ryzen 3 3300X and 3100 CPU Review: A Budget Gamin... by pedrocr on Thursday May 07, 2020 @02:43PM (#23106581)
Availability and cost naturally. A big part of the appeal here is the low price point for a great spec bare-bones home server using these consumer parts.
Re:The AMD Ryzen 3 3300X and 3100 CPU Review: A Budget Gamin... by toast0 on Thursday May 07, 2020 @04:03PM (#23107582)
Mostly cost. The board itself, but also server boards are often hard to find for desktop sockets, so that drives cost for the CPU as well. But, if I get a server board, maybe I'm going to get one with IPMI, and those usually have serial consoles and some limited VGA for KVM over IP too.

I could afford a $800 server project, but I'd rather spend $300.

Re:The AMD Ryzen 3 3300X and 3100 CPU Review: A Budget Gamin... by pedrocr on Thursday May 07, 2020 @02:21PM (#23106290)
Had no idea that would even boot. I prefer being able to just plug in a monitor but that's an interesting option.