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Re:Steer clear of Android Market and its DRM by runjake on Thursday March 10, 2011 @01:44PM (#2310168)
They made a similar declaration against the iPhone. But really, every vendor works roughly like this.

I can consolidate every FSF pronouncement:

Don't use cell phones, they're all bad. Do not browse the web. Instead, have a cron job download a text version and mail it to you over uucp, every day.

I might as well build a cabin in the woods. Or you know, compromise based on my own comfort level.

Edit: I do value the FSF. I would just like to see more practical suggestions for the layperson from them. Not everyone can lead the techno-monastic lifestyle.

Re:Steer clear of Android Market and its DRM by blocke on Thursday March 10, 2011 @01:50PM (#2310185)
The FSF provides what is expected of it: Dogmatic consistency and a warning that without a certain set of freedoms you are a sharecropper.

The reason you don't see a more practical suggestion from them is the suggestion involves "none of the currently above options".

Re:Steer clear of Android Market and its DRM by runjake on Thursday March 10, 2011 @04:08PM (#2310783)
True this. Two points of "extremism" (say in this case, the FSF and Microsoft) has it's place in establishing a solid middle ground.
Re:Steer clear of Android Market and its DRM by yuhong on Thursday March 10, 2011 @03:26PM (#2310625)
When did the FSF say not to browse the web? Yes there is the "non-free" JS stuff, which IMO does have a point. It can be split into the issue of obfuscated and license-free JS.
Re:Steer clear of Android Market and its DRM by jedsmith on Thursday March 10, 2011 @03:28PM (#2310635)
He's referring to how RMS has said that he browses the Web. I think it was more of a painting of the lifestyle as a whole, rather than a specific edict from the FSF.

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.os.openbsd.misc/134979

Re:Steer clear of Android Market and its DRM by yuhong on Thursday March 10, 2011 @03:32PM (#2310648)
Yea, doesn't mean that he would recommend it to others.
Re:Steer clear of Android Market and its DRM by yuhong on Thursday March 10, 2011 @03:19PM (#2310592)
They are not asking to avoid Android altogether, just the market.
Re:Steer clear of Android Market and its DRM by runjake on Thursday March 10, 2011 @04:33PM (#2310887)
Most Android devices are locked down so that users cannot install apps outside the Android Market (aka "sideloading").

Of course those of us who know about xda-developers.com and are handy with adb can easily bypass this in most cases. But we're in the minority. The average joe, the vast majority of the user base is either incapable or unwilling to do these things.

Unless you've got a rooted & bootloader-unlocked device running an AOSP-derived ROM, Google's dream of an open mobile device OS only applies to the carriers.

Re:Steer clear of Android Market and its DRM by blocke on Thursday March 10, 2011 @06:21PM (#2311251)
"Most Android devices are locked down so that users cannot install apps outside the Android Market (aka "sideloading")."

This is new to me. Got any proof?

As far as I know in the US it's just AT&T.

Re:Steer clear of Android Market and its DRM by julianz on Thursday March 10, 2011 @09:19PM (#2311860)
My phone is stock, not rooted, it has a checkbox to install non-market apps and that works fine. Not sure what they're on about.
Re:Steer clear of Android Market and its DRM by TheAmazingIdiot on Thursday March 10, 2011 @02:38PM (#2310415)
You almost seem like you are setting up Ted Kaczynsky = Richard Stallman. We have anti-tech, lives in cabin, and extremely dogmatic.

Perhaps next we will have GPL with logic bombs sent via email...

Yeah, it was a joke. Still,seriously any strongly dogmatic organization will exhibit obvious inconsistencies of common sense, while holding to the logic they ascribe to.

Re:Steer clear of Android Market and its DRM by jedsmith on Thursday March 10, 2011 @03:30PM (#2310640)
It's Ted Kaczynski, and you're seriously reading what you want to read there. That's not what I got from it at all.

Jokes are also amusing.

Re:Steer clear of Android Market and its DRM by trotsky on Thursday March 10, 2011 @01:53PM (#2310208)
I'm under the impression that Google can remote kill any .apk that's been installed, not just those that came from the market. Is that inaccurate? I suppose even if they can't do it directly, they could force push an app that would remove a non-market app similar to how they pushed a cleaner for the market malware.

P.S. - Please let me turn off web market/off device installs. Thanks.

Re:Steer clear of Android Market and its DRM by NovaDesu on Thursday March 10, 2011 @02:28PM (#2310373)
I will take the remote kill power that google has anytime over the restrictions by the apple store.
Re:Steer clear of Android Market and its DRM by jokermatt999 on Thursday March 10, 2011 @03:35PM (#2310664)
Apple has it too, actually, so Google is better all around for "freedom/openness".
Re:Steer clear of Android Market and its DRM by jedsmith on Thursday March 10, 2011 @03:27PM (#2310630)
The slug of this article is telling:

    android-market-has-drm-too
Assuming that's an early working title, I wonder why it didn't last? The implied comparison is interesting.
Re:Steer clear of Android Market and its DRM by thirsteh on Thursday March 10, 2011 @01:45PM (#2310169)
Meh
Re:Steer clear of Android Market and its DRM by shareme on Thursday March 10, 2011 @02:10PM (#2310290)
Its convoluted the right Google exercises, BTW there are non Google Android Markets, to protect users from Malware, etc also enforces copyright licenses..ie such as GPL.

its like FSF Hurd ..have you heard when its being released yet? I hear next century is on the roadmap..[its sarcasm folks, I am a FSF member]