Re:Steer clear of Android Market and its DRM
by runjake on Thursday March 10, 2011 @01:44PM
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They made a similar declaration against the iPhone. But really, every vendor works roughly like this.
I can consolidate every FSF pronouncement:
Don't use cell phones, they're all bad. Do not browse the web. Instead, have a cron job download a text version and mail it to you over uucp, every day.
I might as well build a cabin in the woods. Or you know, compromise based on my own comfort level.
Edit: I do value the FSF. I would just like to see more practical suggestions for the layperson from them. Not everyone can lead the techno-monastic lifestyle.
Re:Steer clear of Android Market and its DRM
by yuhong on Thursday March 10, 2011 @03:26PM
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When did the FSF say not to browse the web? Yes there is the "non-free" JS stuff, which IMO does have a point. It can be split into the issue of obfuscated and license-free JS.
Re:Steer clear of Android Market and its DRM
by jedsmith on Thursday March 10, 2011 @03:28PM
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He's referring to how RMS has said that he browses the Web. I think it was more of a painting of the lifestyle as a whole, rather than a specific edict from the FSF.
Re:Steer clear of Android Market and its DRM
by runjake on Thursday March 10, 2011 @04:33PM
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Most Android devices are locked down so that users cannot install apps outside the Android Market (aka "sideloading").
Of course those of us who know about xda-developers.com and are handy with adb can easily bypass this in most cases. But we're in the minority. The average joe, the vast majority of the user base is either incapable or unwilling to do these things.
Unless you've got a rooted & bootloader-unlocked device running an AOSP-derived ROM, Google's dream of an open mobile device OS only applies to the carriers.
Re:Steer clear of Android Market and its DRM
by TheAmazingIdiot on Thursday March 10, 2011 @02:38PM
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You almost seem like you are setting up Ted Kaczynsky = Richard Stallman. We have anti-tech, lives in cabin, and extremely dogmatic.
Perhaps next we will have GPL with logic bombs sent via email...
Yeah, it was a joke. Still,seriously any strongly dogmatic organization will exhibit obvious inconsistencies of common sense, while holding to the logic they ascribe to.
Re:Steer clear of Android Market and its DRM
by trotsky on Thursday March 10, 2011 @01:53PM
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I'm under the impression that Google can remote kill any .apk that's been installed, not just those that came from the market. Is that inaccurate? I suppose even if they can't do it directly, they could force push an app that would remove a non-market app similar to how they pushed a cleaner for the market malware.
P.S. - Please let me turn off web market/off device installs. Thanks.
Re:Steer clear of Android Market and its DRM
by shareme on Thursday March 10, 2011 @02:10PM
(#2310290)
Its convoluted the right Google exercises, BTW there are non Google Android Markets, to protect users from Malware, etc also enforces copyright licenses..ie such as GPL.
its like FSF Hurd ..have you heard when its being released yet? I hear next century is on the roadmap..[its sarcasm folks, I am a FSF member]
I can consolidate every FSF pronouncement:
Don't use cell phones, they're all bad. Do not browse the web. Instead, have a cron job download a text version and mail it to you over uucp, every day.
I might as well build a cabin in the woods. Or you know, compromise based on my own comfort level.
Edit: I do value the FSF. I would just like to see more practical suggestions for the layperson from them. Not everyone can lead the techno-monastic lifestyle.
The reason you don't see a more practical suggestion from them is the suggestion involves "none of the currently above options".
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.os.openbsd.misc/134979
Of course those of us who know about xda-developers.com and are handy with adb can easily bypass this in most cases. But we're in the minority. The average joe, the vast majority of the user base is either incapable or unwilling to do these things.
Unless you've got a rooted & bootloader-unlocked device running an AOSP-derived ROM, Google's dream of an open mobile device OS only applies to the carriers.
This is new to me. Got any proof?
As far as I know in the US it's just AT&T.
Perhaps next we will have GPL with logic bombs sent via email...
Yeah, it was a joke. Still,seriously any strongly dogmatic organization will exhibit obvious inconsistencies of common sense, while holding to the logic they ascribe to.
Jokes are also amusing.
P.S. - Please let me turn off web market/off device installs. Thanks.
its like FSF Hurd ..have you heard when its being released yet? I hear next century is on the roadmap..[its sarcasm folks, I am a FSF member]