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Re:GitHub issue calling for retraction of Imperial College s... by jMyles on Thursday May 07, 2020 @01:18AM (#23099953)
The study in question is the Imperial College study projecting the spread of COVID-19. It used (apparently an earlier version of) this code to generate the data for its analysis.

This study was, of course, the basis for lockdowns around the world.

Re:GitHub issue calling for retraction of Imperial College s... by toyg on Thursday May 07, 2020 @06:08AM (#23101387)
> This study was, of course, the basis for lockdowns around the world.

[citation needed]

Afaik this was a lone study that might have been relevant only to the UK debate (and very late at that). Italy had already been in full lockdown for weeks before it was published, quite a few other European countries had gone in shutdown or closed borders, and obviously Asian countries had already taken countermeasures for months.

Being so cavalier with the truth is, of course, why intelligent people don't take seriously a lot of anti-science attitudes.

Re:GitHub issue calling for retraction of Imperial College s... by pnako on Thursday May 07, 2020 @06:52AM (#23101598)
According to Le Monde (~ French NY Times), it's this research that prompted the French government to urgently implement this "lock down" solution. It was criticized by some French scientists in the government's own expert group.

But I don't really blame Ferguson. If President Macron listens to him, or Alex Jones, or any other crank or random guy with an opinion and a model, instead of his own experts, he is the one to blame. I think the culture of the "safety principle" and excessive caution is also to blame.

https://www.lemonde.fr/planete/article/2020/03/15/coronaviru...

Re:GitHub issue calling for retraction of Imperial College s... by ubercow13 on Thursday May 07, 2020 @06:18AM (#23101422)
Re:GitHub issue calling for retraction of Imperial College s... by fceccon on Thursday May 07, 2020 @06:27AM (#23101485)
The timelime doesn't match tho. The article is dated 19/03 and mentions a study released the previous week (so 12/03 or late). The italian lockdown started on the 22/02 [0] for a few towns, and a couple of weeks later was extended to the entire peninsula.

[0] https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/25/towns-italy-lockdown-coronavi...

Re:GitHub issue calling for retraction of Imperial College s... by ubercow13 on Thursday May 07, 2020 @06:29AM (#23101497)
Indeed, I forgot how late the UK/US policy changed. The claim that this study affected policy around the world doesn't seem to hold up.
Re:GitHub issue calling for retraction of Imperial College s... by toyg on Thursday May 07, 2020 @06:22AM (#23101443)
"The UK and the US". It's in the title.

As I said, "around the world" they were already taking countermeasures.

Re:GitHub issue calling for retraction of Imperial College s... by lostmyoldone on Thursday May 07, 2020 @09:19AM (#23102625)
At least in Europe it wasn't a major part of decisions. When it was published, it mostly corroborated what people here were already seeing, that urgent care facilities got - or were going to get - overwhelmed in a few weeks if contact tracing failed to contain close to all cases.

There is also a "control" group of sorts in us Swedes, as the Swedish health authority choose to act differently, initially. Their recommendation as of now is essentially equivalent to quarantine, except for non-adults. It's important to understand that it is really to instigate anything like a curfew in Sweden, at least unless we get attacked military by another country. The laws as they stand don't really allow that. So the government is also somewhat limited in what they can do.

The situation here is that urgent care has been overwhelmed for about a month, and a lot more people have died or been gravely ill than during even really bad flu seasons. We're also probably far from done yet, as it's much easier to get people to stay indoors when it's cold and rainy outside, and as its been getting warmer more people have been disrespecting the recommendations.

Re:GitHub issue calling for retraction of Imperial College s... by tastroder on Thursday May 07, 2020 @07:46AM (#23101908)
I've honestly lost track of all the simulation papers over the last few weeks, is there anything in particular in this one that's not reflected by any one of those? I don't think I've seen a single one that didn't come to suggesting a scale that calls for some lockdown requirements.
Re:GitHub issue calling for retraction of Imperial College s... by est on Thursday May 07, 2020 @05:56AM (#23101322)
> This study was, of course, the basis for lockdowns around the world.

Its model for China predictions seems to be quite fitting.

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Re:GitHub issue calling for retraction of Imperial College s... by d1str0 on Thursday May 07, 2020 @05:36AM (#23101245)
No he doesn’t. Asking for verification on a study is incredibly scientific.
Re:GitHub issue calling for retraction of Imperial College s... by eejjjj82 on Thursday May 07, 2020 @05:53AM (#23101305)
No... doing your own analysis to verify the study is incredibly scientific. And the authors have provided you their code.

So find a bug in the implementation which can invalidate one of their claims. Lack of tests, is not a bug.

Re:GitHub issue calling for retraction of Imperial College s... by lidHanteyk on Thursday May 07, 2020 @05:42AM (#23101262)
Please, go on; what kind of verification do you want? How would you like to see this codebase improved in order to bring about that verification?