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Re:Saudi stocks slump as minister warns of ‘painful’ measure... by Etheryte on Sunday May 03, 2020 @06:43PM (#23062501)
The image caption used in this article, and in many similar pieces, is honestly somewhat scary:

> Why Now Is the Time to Be Buying Big Oil Stocks

This is dangerous advice given most investors, never mind casual investors, don't understand how the oil market works. Last I checked, there is no convenient way to invest in the spot price of oil eventually going up. People who buy "oil ETFs" like USO hoping to cash out if the price rises later don't understand how the underlying asset works, and end up losing a lot of money [1].

Using captions like that is simply irresponsible and should be avoided.

[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/21/retail-investors-who-believe...

Re:Saudi stocks slump as minister warns of ‘painful’ measure... by loeg on Sunday May 03, 2020 @07:00PM (#23062596)
Oil stocks are very different from oil futures (USO). The advert/spam video isn't really part of the article, either, but it makes clear that it is revering to companies like Chevron ($CVX), etc; not USO.

(It's bad advice for investors anyway; if you're naive enough to take advice from a random website, you should just buy and hold low-cost whole-market index funds.)

Re:Saudi stocks slump as minister warns of ‘painful’ measure... by echelon on Sunday May 03, 2020 @07:08PM (#23062648)
How is investing in oil majors or low-leveraged midstream a bad idea?

Not only do many of these companies have a good balance sheet, but they're 4-6X undervalued if you're long on the investment.

Furthermore, these companies are at price points where the dividend yield is 30-60%. You could put a percentage of your yearly salary in and retire on passive income when the market returns to normal.

Having a passive income stream is the ultimate way to pursue building a startup.

Oil will come back.

Re:Saudi stocks slump as minister warns of ‘painful’ measure... by pmorici on Sunday May 03, 2020 @07:37PM (#23062805)
I don't follow, dividend yields on the 6 oil majors range from ~5-12% as far as I can tell. It's a far cry from 30-60%. Also many oil companies especially outside of the majors are notorious from having huge debt loads.
Re:Saudi stocks slump as minister warns of ‘painful’ measure... by arcticbull on Sunday May 03, 2020 @08:16PM (#23063026)
I assume the parent is referring to the fact that companies, like Occidental ($OXY) were paying $3.18/share in annual dividends prior to this crash, while trading in the mid-high $40's (~9%). Now that $OXY is down at a near-term high of $15/share that dividend yield represents 21.2%. A few weeks ago it was down at $10/share (~31.8%). That's just one off-hand example, and it's pretty comparable across the industry. Even big players like $XOM were/are in a similar boat, if not to the same extent.

$OXY earnings is coming up this week and I suspect that dividend is going to get slaughtered -- after all, they elected to pay Warren Buffet's special dividend in stock in lieu of cash. If the op is super-long term, I assume they're suggesting that the stock could return, and with it, the dividend, which would be "30%" of your original investment.