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Re:What It’s Like Inside a Chip Foundry During the Covid-19 ... by devonstopps on Friday April 24, 2020 @02:24PM (#22971385)
Also, clean rooms are designed to keep dust out of the Fab. They are positive pressure rooms versus a virus lab which would be negative pressure rooms to keep material inside the lab. Similarly with protective suits. I.e. in the Fab they don't care if anything enters the clean suit you are wearing - just that nothing leaves it. In a virus lab it would be a positive pressure suit.
Re:What It’s Like Inside a Chip Foundry During the Covid-19 ... by aaron_m04 on Friday April 24, 2020 @05:46PM (#22973265)
Is that an important distinction though? In a clean room, there shouldn't be viral particles in the room so the suit wearer would be equally safe if their suit was positive or negative pressure (so long as everyone else has their suits the same way).
Re:What It’s Like Inside a Chip Foundry During the Covid-19 ... by eternauta3k on Friday April 24, 2020 @01:48PM (#22970937)
So foundries are still working... what about packaging and testing?
Re:What It’s Like Inside a Chip Foundry During the Covid-19 ... by extra__tofu on Friday April 24, 2020 @02:08PM (#22971207)
Most things are still running, at least in my specific niche within the industry, because nearly everything is in Taiwan.
Re:What It’s Like Inside a Chip Foundry During the Covid-19 ... by netsharc on Friday April 24, 2020 @12:52PM (#22970203)
Man, the first word of that article is already wrong...

> “Ironically, one of the safest places to be right now is in a cleanroom,” points out Thomas Sonderman, president of SkyWater Technology, in Bloomington, Minn.

That's not irony! If it's usually dangerous to be in a clean room, then it is an irony. If they were running a clean room in a virus lab, now that's irony.

What they have is probably an Alanis Morissette song...

Re:What It’s Like Inside a Chip Foundry During the Covid-19 ... by dang on Friday April 24, 2020 @04:03PM (#22972322)
Let's not go on generic tangents please; especially not nitpicky ones.

This is the sort of thing where in person people would chuckle and move on, but on the internet it leads to a cascade. We all have associations that we can't quite resist adding, and pretty soon it dominates the thread, an outcome no one actually wants.

Re:What It’s Like Inside a Chip Foundry During the Covid-19 ... by newacct583 on Friday April 24, 2020 @01:52PM (#22971002)
You're picking on sentence construction and not meaning. It's true this is an editing failure, but the sense of the point is fairly clear:

Under the current circumstances, "going to work" is considered dangerous due to the social interaction. But employees going to this workplace are arguably safer than they would be at home, because it's a clean room. (Whether this is true or not is sort of an open question.)

That's irony, as typically understood.

Re:What It’s Like Inside a Chip Foundry During the Covid-19 ... by mikejulietbravo on Friday April 24, 2020 @02:48PM (#22971611)
srsly - comments on this site are kinda outrageous. Is grammar nazi-ing really how people spend time?
Re:What It’s Like Inside a Chip Foundry During the Covid-19 ... by ryguytilidie on Friday April 24, 2020 @02:54PM (#22971677)
Yeah, I get that people are kinda bored right now, but at that point, just go lay in the grass, look at the clouds and be happy.

Sitting here raging at minor errors has always been so weird to me.

Re:What It’s Like Inside a Chip Foundry During the Covid-19 ... by wcoenen on Friday April 24, 2020 @03:07PM (#22971777)
The point was about semantics, not grammar.
Re:What It’s Like Inside a Chip Foundry During the Covid-19 ... by colechristensen on Friday April 24, 2020 @01:31PM (#22970737)
The meaning of the word 'irony' has changed in what people mean when they use it. It suffered from being an obscure word which gained popularity without most people ever being taught what it means and only learning from context. All words are made up, there's no 'real' meaning.

Another word like this is 'crisis'. It went from meaning "decision" in old Greek to something like "tipping point, or a time of major change" to how most people use it today "time when lots of bad stuff happens". Much of English is poorly translated and pronounced French. Déranger in French is to bother, to be deranged in English... French itself being malformed Roman... you get the picture.

If you go chasing what words "really" mean, you'll learn that almost all of English is loan words which mean something not entirely unlike the word borrowed, and you'll end up trying to reconstruct 7000 year old languages to get to the bottom of a bottomless well.

Re:What It’s Like Inside a Chip Foundry During the Covid-19 ... by bigdict on Friday April 24, 2020 @01:34PM (#22970779)
> malformed Roman

Latin

Re:What It’s Like Inside a Chip Foundry During the Covid-19 ... by magicalhippo on Friday April 24, 2020 @01:57PM (#22971068)
Reminds me of this gem from George Carlin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDKdvTecYAM
Re:What It’s Like Inside a Chip Foundry During the Covid-19 ... by segfaultbuserr on Friday April 24, 2020 @12:55PM (#22970259)
There is an easy fix to this sentence: Ironically, one of the safest __workplaces__ to be right now is in a cleanroom (during a pandemic, a workplace is not usually perceived to be safe).
Re:What It’s Like Inside a Chip Foundry During the Covid-19 ... by mhb on Friday April 24, 2020 @01:12PM (#22970476)
Perhaps better: Ironically, one of the safest places to be right now is a workplace. If you work in a cleanroom.
Re:What It’s Like Inside a Chip Foundry During the Covid-19 ... by jsmith99 on Friday April 24, 2020 @01:29PM (#22970711)
Chip makers do use a lot of toxic chemicals such as pirahana solution and carcinogens https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-06-15/american-...