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Re:If a MacBook Pro runs hot or shows high kernel CPU, try c... by p1necone on Thursday April 23, 2020 @03:55PM (#22960427)
What's the fascination with laptops anyway? Are that many people really working from coffee shops? I'm pretty much always coding on the same desk at home and a mid-high end desktop is significantly cheaper than a decent laptop and much more powerful than even the really high end laptops. The ergonomics are also much better, although that can be fixed on laptops with docks and separate monitors etc too.
Re:If a MacBook Pro runs hot or shows high kernel CPU, try c... by Leherenn on Thursday April 23, 2020 @04:19PM (#22960753)
I had a laptop at my previous job, now a desktop.

If you have to do a demo in a different room, it's a pain. Your best bet is usually to use another laptop. Same thing if you want to have a call in a quiet place and want to check emails/reference during the call.

Work from home is also easier, you don't have to use 2 computers or carry your tower (though currently that's viable).

Re:If a MacBook Pro runs hot or shows high kernel CPU, try c... by tracker1 on Thursday April 23, 2020 @07:41PM (#22962952)
It's more about those that work from the office mostly, maybe go into meetings etc... and then home occasionally (or right now, mostly).

At work, I'm on a dock... at home, I'm on a 4k-kvm switch... so I'm not really using the laptop but for a lighter computers... Just got bumped to 32gb ram, which is most of the laptop bottleneck. Though my personal system (r9 3950x) is much faster than the laptop (i7 8550u) both on 1tb nvme.

Re:If a MacBook Pro runs hot or shows high kernel CPU, try c... by p1necone on Friday April 24, 2020 @12:35AM (#22964684)
I'm envious of your 3950x, but on the other hand I suspect I'd never actually max it out. I should get into video editing or something to justify more PC upgrades...
Re:If a MacBook Pro runs hot or shows high kernel CPU, try c... by tracker1 on Friday April 24, 2020 @05:37PM (#22973176)
Even then... Literally the only time I max it out is when I'm doing a handbrake x265 encode on a faster preset... the slower presets only use about 75% of CPU. If I did it again, would probably go with a 3900X and spend the extra $250 towards an RTX 2070 Super instead of the RX 5700 XT that I got.

My old computer was over 5yo at upgrade, with a mid-cycle upgrade of a couple components, likely this will be the same, though I don't think I will ever go RGB again.

Re:If a MacBook Pro runs hot or shows high kernel CPU, try c... by OriginalPenguin on Thursday April 23, 2020 @11:12PM (#22964257)
What 4k kvm switch do you use? Do you like it?
Re:If a MacBook Pro runs hot or shows high kernel CPU, try c... by tracker1 on Friday April 24, 2020 @05:46PM (#22973263)
It's the TESmart KVM Switch... HDMI 4K 60hz 4:4:4, I like it okay. Seemed about the best option on Amazon, but mixed reviews. My display is 60hz, and I don't play many games, so it works well enough for my use.

I did get hdmi adapters for my pi4's, but haven't actually tried them yet. May need different adapters/cables if you're going to/from mini-dp or another interface. back of the switch looks like USB-B Female (standard USB cable, not 3) and HDMI Female.

I've only been using it for about 4 weeks, but so far working well.

KVM (comes with 2 cable sets): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F6XFVZ3/

Extra 2 cable sets: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075FRFXNX/

Micro HDMI to HDMI (for pi4): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JDRHQ58/

Re:If a MacBook Pro runs hot or shows high kernel CPU, try c... by adsljfl3 on Thursday April 23, 2020 @04:31PM (#22960947)
I'm sheltering in place and in the past 3 hours, I've coded in like 3 areas of my house. I also need to move when my partner is working and is on a call.
Re:If a MacBook Pro runs hot or shows high kernel CPU, try c... by p1necone on Thursday April 23, 2020 @04:58PM (#22961312)
Not having a dedicated work area like a home office or just a desk and office chair in a corner of the living room (this is my solution) sounds like a nightmare to me.
Re:If a MacBook Pro runs hot or shows high kernel CPU, try c... by lloeki on Thursday April 23, 2020 @05:31PM (#22961734)
Having a single spot to work at, never to change location, posture, or surrounding sight sounds like a nightmare to me.

I have two sofas, a small desk and a bigger one in two different rooms, a balcony, a table in the kitchen and one in the garden. I frequently switch and move between all of those, which helps me a lot in getting out of coding slumps and refocus. I was so happy to give up my static one desk multimonitor setup at the office for a nimble 13" laptop work from home situation.

To each his own.

Re:If a MacBook Pro runs hot or shows high kernel CPU, try c... by hombre_fatal on Thursday April 23, 2020 @05:58PM (#22962036)
Sitting at the same place every day and having no freedom to move because you're tethered to a desktop sounds like a nightmare to me.

Not very interesting discussion to be had in this direction.

Re:If a MacBook Pro runs hot or shows high kernel CPU, try c... by wyclif on Friday April 24, 2020 @03:52AM (#22965655)
I used to think the way you do as recently as just a few years ago. I couldn't imagine not being able to pick up and move to a cafe or co-working space. I was working a lot of hours and working from home when I probably shouldn't have.

What I've found is that since having a desktop and a dedicated desk and office in my house, when I leave the room I don't bring work with me. I also don't have push notifications enabled on my phone, including email. When I go out, I enjoy other things and then when I come back to my desk, I am much more focused and ready to concentrate on work.

Re:If a MacBook Pro runs hot or shows high kernel CPU, try c... by p1necone on Thursday April 23, 2020 @06:38PM (#22962379)
Yep, different people have different subjective preferences about working situations, who woulda thunk it? I am interested to hear peoples perspectives though.
Re:If a MacBook Pro runs hot or shows high kernel CPU, try c... by hnick on Thursday April 23, 2020 @08:47PM (#22963421)
I have a desktop PC at home in a home office. My wife is right near me.

I think this is probably a problem because I also play games on it so the room sends very mixed messages to my brain.

I help with a small business so have to use my PC for that. With my day job I have a laptop provided and do move around the house to get a mental disconnect and help me focus on some tasks. The problem is it's not a great device for stuff like in-depth research, I really want a big screen for that, so usually have to use the PC and get distracted.

Re:If a MacBook Pro runs hot or shows high kernel CPU, try c... by samatman on Thursday April 23, 2020 @06:19PM (#22962223)
I have one of those. I've been remote for a couple years so none of this is new to me.

I just unplugged my laptop from my standing desk and went to lay down for my postprandial chill session. I'm going to get some work done as soon as I'm done faffing about on HN (whomst among us...) and then I'll probably plug back in again.

It's just easier to do it this way rather than synchronize state between a desktop and laptop. One less thing to own, also.

Re:If a MacBook Pro runs hot or shows high kernel CPU, try c... by vladvasiliu on Saturday April 25, 2020 @12:56AM (#22975696)
I think there's more to it than just working from a coffee shop.

Without going into people who are often on the road, many folks I know like working on the same computer at the office and at home.

It's usually easier to carry a laptop than a desktop. Even though there are many very small desktops nowadays (see HP's elitedesk mini - though it looks like a laptop without an screen, so I'm not sure it's that much more powerful) the laptop has usually fewer cables to unplug so it's generally less of a pain.

Another angle is that for many people a laptop has enough power for the activities they do and being portable is a real plus. I'm typing this on a 2013 MBP in my bed. This laptop might be slow compared to a modern mid-range desktop, but it's not tethered to a fixed spot. When I need to do serious work, I can plug a 4K screen and external keyboard and have the desktop experience.

On the rare occasion when I need a lot of power for some task, I'll usually fire up some outrageous ec2 instance for an hour or two. It will also have better network connectivity, which allows me to work comfortable over my parents' DSL line too.

I guess it all comes down to usage patterns. If you always use your computer on the same desk and never have the need to move it, I guess a desktop is a more effective use of funds. But many people seem to enjoy being able to carry the computer on a sofa, in the kitchen, etc.

Re:If a MacBook Pro runs hot or shows high kernel CPU, try c... by hnick on Thursday April 23, 2020 @08:41PM (#22963381)
When I started at my current company we had desktop PCs, went home, and used a VPN to dial in.

They got rid of the desktop PCs and gave us all crappy laptops (they took a few years to catch up in power to what we had) and the argument was they could not ensure a secure environment on random home PCs. They were probably angling towards a hot-desk setup too but most people have a dedicated desk still.

I definitely preferred the old setup. I just struggle do any meaningful work at all on a laptop, I need to plug it in to a screen but I can't dedicate that space so normally just put up with it rather than unplug my home setup.

They do provide docks in the office but unfortunately a few different generations of HP laptops are around so you might need to search for the right one.

Re:If a MacBook Pro runs hot or shows high kernel CPU, try c... by bitcharmer on Thursday April 23, 2020 @05:53PM (#22961976)
I don't think in a corporate setting fascination has anything to do with this. I work for a global bank; we have around a quarter million employees and many of our office spaces employ hot-desking. Each one of us gets a laptop and we can work from wherever. Especially that you're required to work from home at least one day per week.
Re:If a MacBook Pro runs hot or shows high kernel CPU, try c... by 1123581321 on Saturday April 25, 2020 @02:18AM (#22976076)
It’s not a fascination. The issue is usually that if you have a desktop, you also need a laptop. So unless you actually need a desktop’s power, you just use a laptop with desktop ergonomics (screen, keyboard and mouse) and occasionally go portable.