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Re:Who ordered the car bomb that killed Maltese journalist D... by jimbob45 on Monday April 20, 2020 @05:19PM (#22928690)
I'm not sure what you're arguing. Rewarding loyalty to the company typically takes the form of profit sharing, wherein employees would be incentivized to ignore management abuse (for instance) because they know raising the alarm will detract from the company's profits and, thus, their own profits.

Are you advocating for profit sharing/wealth redistribution in a really indirect way?

Re:Who ordered the car bomb that killed Maltese journalist D... by numakerg on Monday April 20, 2020 @08:52PM (#22930681)
> Are you advocating for profit sharing/wealth redistribution in a really indirect way?

Why not? I would support mandatory stock options based on the number of employees. In reality though, I think it would be defeated by creative accounting just like taxation.

Re:Who ordered the car bomb that killed Maltese journalist D... by luckylion on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @03:04AM (#22932686)
How would stock options change anything in that regard? If you blow the whistle, the price decreases and your options are worth less money. You still have incentive to keep your mouth shut.
Re:Who ordered the car bomb that killed Maltese journalist D... by gorgoiler on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @01:38AM (#22932301)
I’m not arguing either way but would point out:

1/ Drawing a salary is profit sharing.

2/ Keeping your job is a reward.

Re:Who ordered the car bomb that killed Maltese journalist D... by vageli on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @01:58AM (#22932411)
> I’m not arguing either way but would point out:

> 1/ Drawing a salary is profit sharing.

People still get paid when companies don't turn a profit.

Re:Who ordered the car bomb that killed Maltese journalist D... by TeMPOraL on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @03:44AM (#22932886)
Salary is a maximally derisked profit sharing scheme. You get much less money that you could've earned in times of company's success, in exchange for a stable income even if the company is not successful.
Re:Who ordered the car bomb that killed Maltese journalist D... by gorgoiler on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @05:40AM (#22933430)
It feels like we’re splitting hairs a little. In the context of my comment on the parent, profit and revenue are the same thing. After all, if you share 100% of your profit in another sense your company makes no profit at the end of the year.

The point is: once your livelihood depends on being part of an organisation, your judgement about that org can’t be completely impartial.

Re:Who ordered the car bomb that killed Maltese journalist D... by Renaud on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @07:30AM (#22933935)
That's a pretty narrow definition of loyalty. You are assuming that it's just a thing bought with money.

You can be loyal to the values that your company represent or the values you expect it to hold.

A company that behaves callously doesn't reflect well on the employees that represent it.

These employees may have higher expectations of what their company behaviour should be.

You don't need to reward people with money for them to defend that.

Re:Who ordered the car bomb that killed Maltese journalist D... by watwut on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @03:45AM (#22932888)
Another way to reward loyalty to ethically challenged manager: promotion, more interesting projects, public praise, not abusing you like the others and so on.
Re:Who ordered the car bomb that killed Maltese journalist D... by chaps on Monday April 20, 2020 @06:40PM (#22929609)
This is a very, very HN comment.