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Re:Ask HN: Who Is Firing? by Kiro on Thursday April 16, 2020 @07:01AM (#22888164)
It was not at the same time. The bonus was paid in December, before the pandemic.
Re:Ask HN: Who Is Firing? by throwaway743 on Thursday April 16, 2020 @08:49AM (#22888814)
Regardless of timing or events, the 30mil individual bonus was still taken while 10% of employee's salaries were cut. That's excessive and a slap in the face to those employees.
Re:Ask HN: Who Is Firing? by Kiro on Thursday April 16, 2020 @09:23AM (#22889064)
No-one could have predicted this pandemic and the drastic measures companies have to take. When they paid the bonus they had no idea they would have to cut salaries a few months later. The timing is essential since one event happened before the pandemic and one afterwards. We could argue about bonuses in general but that's a whole different topic.
Re:Ask HN: Who Is Firing? by jazzyk on Thursday April 16, 2020 @11:12AM (#22890192)
But perhaps, just perhaps, the CEO could take $2M as bonus and save $28M for a rainy day?

A rainy day will arrive sooner or later - whether it is a pandemic or an economic crisis or a dry spell in additional funding, etc.

Re:Ask HN: Who Is Firing? by Kiro on Thursday April 16, 2020 @12:09PM (#22890805)
I agree but that's a whole different discussion. We can criticize bonuses in general but making this company a particular scapegoat is just wrong.
Re:Ask HN: Who Is Firing? by jazzyk on Thursday April 16, 2020 @01:52PM (#22891819)
I am not sure what is so particular about this company that the CEO deserved 30M, while neglecting to have a rainy-day fund, just like any reasonable business should. With 30M of bonus, it does not seem like the company was struggling last year?
Re:Ask HN: Who Is Firing? by Kiro on Thursday April 16, 2020 @04:34PM (#22893255)
I don't think any bonus at that level is deserved but just look at how many healthy companies that apparently didn't have a rainy-day fund and are already struggling.
Re:Ask HN: Who Is Firing? by cerberusss on Thursday April 16, 2020 @07:03AM (#22888179)
Thanks, that makes things different. I should've looked better at this particular case!
Re:Ask HN: Who Is Firing? by buckminster on Thursday April 16, 2020 @09:31AM (#22889136)
So the bonus has been returned?
Re:Ask HN: Who Is Firing? by Kiro on Thursday April 16, 2020 @12:14PM (#22890855)
Maybe? The discussion has derailed from a misrepresentation of facts to people holding on to their anger and finding unrelated ways to slander the company. They gave a bonus, then corona hit and they had to cut salaries, like so many other companies have.

If you ask me I think all bonuses should be returned but again, nothing uniquely evil about this company.