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Re:New iPhone SE by dijit on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @01:23PM (#22880467)
Here's the rub; I'm glad you have your fill of phones to choose from. But consider that I (and many others) have nothing.

If the situation was reversed I would not argue against larger phones, in fact, I was part of that generation when the iPhone 4, 4s, 5 et al. were being released and over in Android Land the OnePlus One was coming out (legitimately called a Phablet)- I welcomed the choice. It wasn't for me of course but more variety is great.

Unfortunately choice has been removed and I regret celebrating the new form factor thoroughly.

What I'm trying to convey is that: I'm glad you have choice, please give me back mine. And I would graciously ask that if you're ever in a conversation about large phones vs small phones you don't take the stance of arguing against the existence of smaller phones simply because you have a preference for the current standard of sizing.

Re:New iPhone SE by asymmetric on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @02:30PM (#22881248)
It's amazing how personal conversations about consumer tech can get. Your comment struck me as being a tad too emotional for what is, ultimately, a relatively mundane aspect of life.

But maybe I'm wrong, and you have your reasons.

I guess part of it is our impotence in the face of a multibillion-dollar ecosystem of mass-produced products, and the realization that we're (apparently) irrelevant (I share your distaste for large phones).

Anyway, I too hope smaller phones become commonplace again.

Re:New iPhone SE by stormbeta on Thursday April 16, 2020 @01:00AM (#22886223)
Consider that for many of us, our phones are now quite literally painful to use one-handed, and we have no alternatives - for devices that most of us use for at least an hour or two a day and is often our primary tech device when not actually at a desk.

My Pixel 3 at the time I bought it was one of the smallest decent quality phones that wasn't iOS, and even after a year and a half I still notice how much my hand has to contort for basic usage.

Re:New iPhone SE by andrepd on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @03:09PM (#22881765)
It's a computing device I use for at least a couple hours every day, and which I never leave the house without. Once my current phone breaks I'd just like to buy a new one I can keep in my pants pocket :)
Re:New iPhone SE by tartoran on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @02:42PM (#22881392)
It's a bit personal but it highlights the trend of going in only one direction without regard to a big subset of users. But in the end it's just mundane as you said it, we could probably just do without
Re:New iPhone SE by hombre_fatal on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @05:09PM (#22883117)
Did I really just read this?

You're upset that someone likes big phones because there are so many big phones?

This is really one of the most bizarre comments I've seen on this website.

We're not talking about rationing our food resources during a great depression where someone chimed in with "but I like excess rations!" while you get none. Nobody here has the power to change the size of manufactured phones with their two cent internet comments. What's the emotional bargaining for?

I really hope we can find a way to move beyond our hysterical fixation on gadgets and their grapple over our happiness. It's just a phone. It's just a laptop. It's just a smart toaster.

Re:New iPhone SE by dijit on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @05:24PM (#22883244)
> Did I really just read this?

Yes, You really did just read this. But I think you took the wrong message away.

The parent "Would argue against" small phones, because they prefer larger phones.

I am asking him in the most sincere way I know to not argue against smaller phones because their preferences are currently well served. However mine haven't been nearly met in years.

I find the rest of your comment very bad faith, this is a first world problem _of course_ but this is a topic about a new phone and I haven't been able to buy a new phone in 4 years at this point. At some point the EOL will strike my phone and I'll be essentially forced (by application support, website performance, lack of browser updates whatever) to carry something that feels more like a mini ipad or tablet than a "phone".

Look, Phones are a central point of our lives today; I do my banking on it, I pay my bills on it, I order food with it. I literally pay for everything with it. It's not unreasonable that there is at least a modicum of variety that _isn't_ camera based.

Re:New iPhone SE by hombre_fatal on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @05:28PM (#22883279)
I don't understand the bargaining. Was that HNer the CEO of Samsung? What's the point of all this beyond catharsis?
Re:New iPhone SE by dijit on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @05:31PM (#22883323)
Ok, I'll explain it then.

Person A is enjoying the status quo.

Person B is having a hard time with the status quo.

Person B complains, asking to be included.

Person A complains, "I don't have a problem"

Producer (C) sees the bickering as a muddled frenzy, unable to understand if there is a need or people are being fussy.

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If you are in a position to discuss phone sizes and someone floats the notion of a smaller phone. And you would "actively" argue against that- Then I would like you to not do that. Not because you're the CEO of samsung, but because someone who could convey critical information to the CEO of samsung might be swayed into inaction (because inaction is easier after all) by those comments.