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Re:New iPhone SE by wastedhours on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @12:29PM (#22879707)
On the flip side, my phone does have a headphone jack and it's been a perennial weak spot. Debris gets in there far too easily to the extent that it doesn't even allow me to use a standard headphone cable.

I'm not an audiophile, so wireless headphones and streamed music is more than good enough for me - but as someone who has a headphone jack and would be more than willing to use it, it's not exactly been a bed of roses after a couple of years of use.

Am sure a manufacturer with better QA than OnePlus might be better, or if I'd have wrapped my phone in bubble-wrap every time I place it in a pocket it wouldn't have got stuff in there. But that's the anecdata from someone with one.

Re:New iPhone SE by Polylactic_acid on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @07:10PM (#22884233)
This was solved on otterbox cases with a little flap that clips in and covers the jack.
Re:New iPhone SE by mvid on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @07:56PM (#22884606)
a case that essentially triples the size of your phone doesnt seem like a solution
Re:New iPhone SE by Polylactic_acid on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @10:22PM (#22885430)
I personally can't stand using a phone without a thick case. They give you a really comfortable grip on the phone. Modern phones are horrible to hold without a case.
Re:New iPhone SE by TheSpiceIsLife on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @10:43PM (#22885525)
I'm a bit clumsy, I seem to drop anything I even come near.

I have an iPhone 7, whenever I take it out of it's case it just seems to fly straight out of my hand.

Most smartphones remind me more of fine jewelery, or something that was intended to sit in a locked display case.

Re:New iPhone SE by Polylactic_acid on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @11:49PM (#22885856)
The best part about having a bulky case is it removes so much stress. Dropping your phone doesn't matter. You can throw it across the room. It's insane how something designed to be taken everywhere and used regularly is so fragile.
Re:New iPhone SE by TheSpiceIsLife on Thursday April 16, 2020 @12:38AM (#22886117)
Yeah, I don’t get it. Well I suppose if you want the protection you just put a case on it <shrug>.

I remember cycling down the hill and having my Nokia 6610 fall out of my pocket, front n back case n battery flying every which way down the road and thinking nothing of it.

Times have changed.

Re:New iPhone SE by wastedhours on Thursday April 16, 2020 @04:20AM (#22887276)
Absolutely hate having cases on my phones. Almost all make it hard to slide into a pocket, make it far too thick for my hands, and take away the elegance of the design and the "hand feel" (I know that last point will get short shrift here, but enjoying using a device is important).
Re:New iPhone SE by Dahoon on Thursday April 16, 2020 @04:47AM (#22887403)
Buy a simple rubber jack insert. Problem solved.

>Am sure a manufacturer with better QA than OnePlus

Funny, IMO my 7T is by far the best quality phone I have tried and that includes Apple and Google phones.

Re:New iPhone SE by andrewem on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @01:22PM (#22880440)
A headphone jack can be easily cleared of debris with a wooden toothpick. Before I figured that out I also found it impossible to keep using the jack.
Re:New iPhone SE by dkonofalski on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @02:46PM (#22881450)
Also a great way to ruin the contacts and disable it forever. Use compressed air and something other than a toothpick. Eeek.
Re:New iPhone SE by jhloa2 on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @08:37PM (#22884861)
I have never had an issue using wooden toothpicks for the headphone and lightning cable jacks. It feels like you'd really have to try to break the pin connections that way
Re:New iPhone SE by wastedhours on Thursday April 16, 2020 @04:15AM (#22887255)
I've cleared it out a few times, but I think stuff in there's gotten damaged now. It's a slight inconvenience when my headphones aren't charged or I can't use them, but again as anecdata, losing the headphone jack having one in the device hasn't exactly changed my world.
Re:New iPhone SE by mantap on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @10:00PM (#22885335)
I use an interdental brush. It's soft and designed for getting debris out of sensitive places. Works a treat.
Re:New iPhone SE by jbarberu on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @04:57PM (#22882958)
I've found a paperclip to work the best. Just bend it around a joint a couple of times until it snaps off and you have a little fish hook that'll grab onto any lint and pull it out with minimal risk of damaging the connectors :)