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Re:Everything You Know About Fitness is a Lie by reason on Friday March 04, 2011 @08:31AM (#2287939)
Us not readily acquiring the malaria virus is not due to evolution of our genes; we just don't live in the areas where the vector thrives. If you and I were bit by an infected mosquito, there's a very good chance either of us would die in a relatively short period of time. Although, there are some in Africa who do have fewer chances of acquiring it due to them being heterozygotes for sickle cell anemia.

Anyway, I'm not discounting the underlying concept of your comment; I'm just saying that malaria wasn't a particularly apt comparison.

Re:Everything You Know About Fitness is a Lie by poppysan on Friday March 04, 2011 @09:41AM (#2288123)
I think the point is that we don't fight it "natually", we fight it with medicine and vaccines. We also have access to clean water which, if we did get malaria, would prevent us from dying from rapid dehydration(which in my understanding is the primary cause of death from malaria.) This is the argument against the caveman diets...
Re:Everything You Know About Fitness is a Lie by patio11 on Friday March 04, 2011 @10:53AM (#2288428)
The primary reason we don't die from malaria is none of the above: it is mosquito abatement via intentional habitat destruction and copious use of effective pesticides. Large portions of the US used to be malaria country: not a spe mof it is now, and if there was a malaria outbreak in a US suburb we would wring our hands about the consequences for about five minutes and then dump enough chemicals on that subdivision to save an African country.

Ditto Europe, by the way.

Re:Everything You Know About Fitness is a Lie by nerfhammer on Friday March 04, 2011 @12:04PM (#2288754)
I believe the strains of malaria that existed in North American and Europe were far weaker than the African varieties, though
Re:Everything You Know About Fitness is a Lie by rarrrrrr on Friday March 04, 2011 @12:01PM (#2288732)
Medicine is a fine way to treat things like infectious disease, but our western use of it is particularly useless (and often harmful) at treating long term "lifestyle diseases" -- stuff like diabetes, heart disease, and cancer. Prevention is far more effective, and diets that consist mostly of "food as grown" with minimal processing and alteration are good prevention.
Re:Everything You Know About Fitness is a Lie by kragen on Friday March 04, 2011 @11:32PM (#2290823)
> we just don't live in the areas where the vector thrives.

Actually, an awful lot of us do. I see those fucking Anopheles mosquitoes on a regular basis, especially if I venture a bit north from here.

> If you and I were bit by an infected mosquito, there's a very good chance either of us would die in a relatively short period of time.

Actually, out of the 225 million cases of malaria per year, there are only about 1 million deaths.

I'm not discounting the underlying concept of your comment; I haven't gotten malaria yet because of public-health measures like draining swamps, because of cypermethrin on the walls, because of DEET on my legs and head, because of sleeping under a mosquito net or in a room without entrances for mosquitoes, because of sleeping during the day, and because I have enough leisure time to swat the mosquitoes that do land on me.

Re:Everything You Know About Fitness is a Lie by dalore on Friday March 04, 2011 @09:59AM (#2288196)
I disagree with your statement about dying in a short period of time if you catch malaria. I grew up in a country with a high malaria rate (Papua New Guinea). I caught malaria several times and didn't die. Malaria is a curable disease, all though it is evolving against the current cures.
Re:Everything You Know About Fitness is a Lie by reason on Friday March 04, 2011 @10:46AM (#2288398)
It's definitely curable. My hypothetical was based on the assumption that treatment was not given to show that we actually have not evolved defenses against the virus.
Re:Everything You Know About Fitness is a Lie by duncanj on Friday March 04, 2011 @05:55PM (#2290174)
It's not a virus, it's a protozoan parasite, Plasmodium falciparum.