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Re:L.A. Times to Furlough Workers as Ad Revenue ‘Nearly Elim... by dx034 on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @07:41AM (#22876600)
In the end no one will know if it was worth it since no country went in the other direction and just lived with it. The UK tried for a bit but then reacted harshly as the situation worsened.

Maybe not doing anything would've resulted in a few months of medical chaos and not much more, maybe it would've destroyed whole societies. But the polls I'm aware of show that the majority of people is supportive of measures nearly everywhere (I'm not aware of a poll that shows the opposite). In democracies, you'd expect politicians to act if the majority and experts support it.

Re:L.A. Times to Furlough Workers as Ad Revenue ‘Nearly Elim... by dredmorbius on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @08:02AM (#22876721)
Sweden is. Much of Africa will have little choice but to muddle through.

We'll likely get a good idea of what the "no or low response" route looks like.

Re:L.A. Times to Furlough Workers as Ad Revenue ‘Nearly Elim... by dx034 on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @08:19AM (#22876824)
You're right, but I'd classify Sweden as medium response. They still have measures in place, just not as harsh.

With poorer countries (which applies to most of Africa), I guess it'll take several months or years until we know what the excess death rate was. Esp. in rural communities, that data probably often won't be reported as a Covid death. Even Northern Italy had an excess death rate 2x as high as the reported deaths and they had all the attention.

Re:L.A. Times to Furlough Workers as Ad Revenue ‘Nearly Elim... by dredmorbius on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @09:14PM (#22885105)
Sweden's decidedly more casual than other OECD / Eurozone countries. NPR were carrying a segment on it this morning.

https://www.npr.org/2020/04/13/833623311/in-sweden-a-differe...

Re:L.A. Times to Furlough Workers as Ad Revenue ‘Nearly Elim... by praveenperera on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @07:46AM (#22876630)
Isn’t that exactly what Sweden is currently doing?
Re:L.A. Times to Furlough Workers as Ad Revenue ‘Nearly Elim... by techer on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @08:08AM (#22876763)
And currently backtracking on.
Re:L.A. Times to Furlough Workers as Ad Revenue ‘Nearly Elim... by kitotik on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @08:54AM (#22877124)
Re:L.A. Times to Furlough Workers as Ad Revenue ‘Nearly Elim... by jahaja on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @09:21AM (#22877364)
Both these are tabloids and uses "considering" & "is looking at" just below the contradictory headlines. I'm Swedish and are browsing Swedish websites. Including the Public Service svt.se.
Re:L.A. Times to Furlough Workers as Ad Revenue ‘Nearly Elim... by Ajedi32 on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @09:52AM (#22877682)
What new measures are they actually imposing? Neither of those articles has anything concrete.

The data both articles present for Sweden's death and infection rates also seem to suggest new measures might not be necessary (though admittedly the data seems pretty noisy; the recent drop in new deaths/infections could just be a fluke).

Re:L.A. Times to Furlough Workers as Ad Revenue ‘Nearly Elim... by jahaja on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @08:39AM (#22876995)
Uhm, no? I can't find anything in Swedish newspapers about harsher measures.
Re:L.A. Times to Furlough Workers as Ad Revenue ‘Nearly Elim... by ceilingcorner on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @07:57AM (#22876701)
Sorry, I don't recall being democratically asked whether shutting down everything indefinitely was something I agreed with before it happened. Of course people will agree that it's a good idea when the media is blaring "PANDEMIC" at them 24/7.
Re:L.A. Times to Furlough Workers as Ad Revenue ‘Nearly Elim... by mehrdadn on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @08:05AM (#22876744)
"Of course" what? You're aware that different parts of the US have reacted very differently despite having similar national media blaring at them, right?
Re:L.A. Times to Furlough Workers as Ad Revenue ‘Nearly Elim... by ceilingcorner on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @08:06AM (#22876748)
I was replying to this:

> But the polls I'm aware of show that the majority of people is supportive of measures nearly everywhere (I'm not aware of a poll that shows the opposite).

Re:L.A. Times to Furlough Workers as Ad Revenue ‘Nearly Elim... by dx034 on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @08:21AM (#22876848)
You weren't. But I'm sure pretty much all politicians got quick polls before enacting measures. That measures that strictly were enacted was only because politicians knew there wouldn't be large scale protests or riots.

Now I don't want to speculate why people are in favor. Maybe because they believe experts but that usually doesn't work well.. I guess public opinion during the outbreak is also going to be a heavily researched area for years to come.