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Re:Windows Subsystem for Linux 2 Moving into General Availab... by dboreham on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @12:23AM (#22874470)
Windows with git and its bash installed works surprisingly well for node development. Docker doesn't work on either MacOS nor Windows, right?
Re:Windows Subsystem for Linux 2 Moving into General Availab... by abhishekjha on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @12:29AM (#22874509)
I have used docker on MacOS. I don’t know about windows but it ran fine on my mac. Is there something particular that didn’t work for you?
Re:Windows Subsystem for Linux 2 Moving into General Availab... by zxexz on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @12:42AM (#22874588)
I use Docker on macOS daily for work. I love it, and am grateful for it, but the experience is NOTHING like using Docker on Linux. Docker for macOS runs in a virtual machine, and requires dedicating RAM to the daemon. You aren’t directly using the host OS’ kernel either, which can lead to wonky behavior, especially in regards to networking (IME).
Re:Windows Subsystem for Linux 2 Moving into General Availab... by RMPR on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @07:06AM (#22876399)
Have you tried podman (https://podman.io/whatis.html)?
Re:Windows Subsystem for Linux 2 Moving into General Availab... by FireBeyond on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @04:19PM (#22882541)
How would podman help here? It doesn't run on macOS at all.
Re:Windows Subsystem for Linux 2 Moving into General Availab... by geerlingguy on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @12:34AM (#22874536)
There are a number of use cases where Docker for Mac and Windows are painful compared to Linux, and to overcome those problems (like fs performance on shared volumes) people spend a lot of time building hacky solutions.
Re:Windows Subsystem for Linux 2 Moving into General Availab... by deergomoo on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @03:26AM (#22875401)
- Bind mount performance is appalling, even with the delegated/cached modes. I understand the reasons for this, but it's still a major issue for some workloads. To use PHP development as an example, where a popular framework boot-up can read hundreds of files per request (as well as writing out to caches), it's not uncommon to see 5 second response times for a page that displays "hello world" and nothing else. Thankfully there are tools like docker-sync and Mutagen which, while it's one extra thing to set up, get you back to nearly native performance.

- com.docker.hyperkit is nuts. I can have a single container idling in the background doing nothing, hear my laptop fans spin up, and know without checking that com.docker.hyperkit is using 200% CPU for no discernible reason. Restarting the daemon brings things back down...for a while.

At the office we use Linux, but since I've been working from home on my Mac I've gone back to Vagrant for as many projects as I can. Heavier and far less easy to orchestrate yes, but I've found I actually end up with better and more predictable performance (and far less time with my laptop doing double duty as a space heater).

Re:Windows Subsystem for Linux 2 Moving into General Availab... by jacobr1 on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @12:35AM (#22874544)
docker for osx uses a linux VM behind the scenes (transparently)
Re:Windows Subsystem for Linux 2 Moving into General Availab... by Semaphor on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @12:32AM (#22874527)
Windows has direct docker support and has had it for a while. Not sure how great, not into containers myself ;)
Re:Windows Subsystem for Linux 2 Moving into General Availab... by nickjj on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @06:43AM (#22876279)
Docker Desktop 2.1.x with WSL1 works amazingly well.

I've been running this set up for over a year and the volume performance is superb.

Flask, Phoenix, Rails and Webpack driven apps are all a fantastic experience. For example Webpack takes 150ms to compile SCSS / ES6 JS diffs for large real world projects. Web server reloads on code change are effectively instant and I get microsecond response times in some Phoenix apps in development.

This is on 6 year old hardware too and the source code isn't even sitting on an SSD (but Docker Desktop is installed on an SSD).

In all cases, everything is running in Docker through Docker Deskop and I use the Docker CLI / Docker Compose in WSL as a client to connect to Docker Desktop.

It's all documented at https://nickjanetakis.com/blog/setting-up-docker-for-windows....

Re:Windows Subsystem for Linux 2 Moving into General Availab... by inyorgroove on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @12:46AM (#22874605)
Just like on Mac OS it runs in a VM.
Re:Windows Subsystem for Linux 2 Moving into General Availab... by judge2020 on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @01:20AM (#22874783)
soon it won't (at least, not on its own- in the wsl2 VM) https://www.docker.com/blog/new-docker-desktop-wsl2-backend/
Re:Windows Subsystem for Linux 2 Moving into General Availab... by pjmlp on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @01:33AM (#22874855)
It can make use of Hyper-V and Windows Containers.
Re:Windows Subsystem for Linux 2 Moving into General Availab... by GordonS on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @12:07PM (#22879416)
Git for Windows with all the Unix tools it installs works great for me. It's nice for working with Docker, writing and running bash scripts etc.

I have WSL1 installed, but very seldom feel the need to actually use it.

Re:Windows Subsystem for Linux 2 Moving into General Availab... by __d on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @12:34AM (#22874538)
Docker runs just fine on macOS. eg. https://download.docker.com/mac/stable/Docker.dmg
Re:Windows Subsystem for Linux 2 Moving into General Availab... by jamesgeck0 on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @01:00AM (#22874678)
Docker runs in a VM on macOS, with significant penalties to filesystem speed. I haven't used it for a few years, but booting the large Rails app I work on was several times slower under Docker.