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Re:Foxconn’s buildings in Wisconsin are still empty, one yea... by RantyDave on Sunday April 12, 2020 @05:53PM (#22851275)
"Foxconn has announced a giant glass dome that will house a data center"

I'm hard pressed to think of a worse place to put a data centre than under a glass dome. The moon, perhaps?

Re:Foxconn’s buildings in Wisconsin are still empty, one yea... by Taek on Sunday April 12, 2020 @06:13PM (#22851380)
The moon would be very bad. No atmosphere = no heat dissipation.

For thermal reasons alone, computing is a massive challenge in space.

Re:Foxconn’s buildings in Wisconsin are still empty, one yea... by ccmcarey on Sunday April 12, 2020 @06:19PM (#22851424)
you have a planet you could vent heat into?
Re:Foxconn’s buildings in Wisconsin are still empty, one yea... by rsynnott on Sunday April 12, 2020 @06:48PM (#22851585)
Venting heat _into the ground_ is not even remotely an efficient process, unless you have no other option.
Re:Foxconn’s buildings in Wisconsin are still empty, one yea... by titanomachy on Sunday April 12, 2020 @07:13PM (#22851743)
Not on earth, where the ground is relatively warm... but lunar subsurface temperatures are -20 or -30°C. You could sink heat into that pretty fast.
Re:Foxconn’s buildings in Wisconsin are still empty, one yea... by Taek on Sunday April 12, 2020 @07:28PM (#22851825)
They are -20C until you drop a bunch of heat into them. Air works well because it's a fluid. And even as a fluid it's completely ineffective at cooling a cpu. You need to pair that fluid with a heatsink that creates massive surface area and a powered fan that is blowing in a steady stream of cool air to replace the air that has heated up.

Even liquid cooling setups on earth eventually blow their heat into the atmosphere as the primary means of keeping the liquid cool.

Re:Foxconn’s buildings in Wisconsin are still empty, one yea... by defterGoose on Sunday April 12, 2020 @11:57PM (#22853055)
Lots of types of rock have better thermal conductivity than water or air. The subsurface of the moon is vast and would dissipate the heat far too quickly for an appreciable temperature change.
Re:Foxconn’s buildings in Wisconsin are still empty, one yea... by Paradigma11 on Monday April 13, 2020 @12:50AM (#22853269)
But the subsurface of the moon is somewhat less mobile than air or water in cooling systems.
Re:Foxconn’s buildings in Wisconsin are still empty, one yea... by willis936 on Sunday April 12, 2020 @11:55PM (#22853046)
Planet rock is actually a decent insulator in large volumes/long timescales. You’d just heat up the nearby rock quickly, assuming you plan to compute for longer than a week.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasonal_thermal_energy_storag...

Re:Foxconn’s buildings in Wisconsin are still empty, one yea... by titanomachy on Monday April 20, 2020 @08:52PM (#22930676)
Then I guess we'd need to build roving datacentres :)
Re:Foxconn’s buildings in Wisconsin are still empty, one yea... by Ghjklov on Sunday April 12, 2020 @06:05PM (#22851340)
Yeah the moon would be terrible. Data literally just floats off into the void under zero gravity.
Re:Foxconn’s buildings in Wisconsin are still empty, one yea... by thawaway1837 on Sunday April 12, 2020 @06:26PM (#22851467)
The moon isn’t 0 gravity.
Re:Foxconn’s buildings in Wisconsin are still empty, one yea... by nkrisc on Sunday April 12, 2020 @07:00PM (#22851664)
That's the part of the joke you want to nit pick?
Re:Foxconn’s buildings in Wisconsin are still empty, one yea... by slyall on Sunday April 12, 2020 @06:41PM (#22851538)
Okay "Freefall"