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Re:Don't Make Students Use Eclipse by fishmaster on Sunday April 12, 2020 @06:14AM (#22847151)
Because computer science isn't about programming? That's exactly why a simple and elegant language should be chosen, one that allows to express the concepts that are taught. Java is such a horrible choice that it's laughable that it enjoyed this success at universities.
Re:Don't Make Students Use Eclipse by DeathArrow on Sunday April 12, 2020 @07:09AM (#22847412)
Yes, a simple language is better to teach CS. CS is not just about programming, but I think CS is about programming too and having a reasonable level of programming is useful.

If I was a teacher and I'm going to teach someone what a linked list is, or what a binary tree is, I can of course use natural language and drawing, I can use abstract algebraic concepts.

But the student should be also able to construct said structures and observe how they work. The same for any other concept.

Re:Don't Make Students Use Eclipse by dunefox on Sunday April 12, 2020 @09:33AM (#22848132)
Yes, and that's why a simple language is always preferrable to Java. It doesn't matter if a student has previous exposure to programming languages if this language can be taught in about two or three weeks worth of class.