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Re:Spain is moving to permanently establish universal basic ... by iso1631 on Tuesday April 07, 2020 @09:46AM (#22803137)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22795358 (57 comments, 20 hours ago)

I think the general view is "some ministers in Spain would like to implement UBI"

How that works, especially with freedom of movement from the rest of the EU, is anyones guess

Re:Spain is moving to permanently establish universal basic ... by slightwinder on Tuesday April 07, 2020 @10:27AM (#22803486)
> How that works, especially with freedom of movement from the rest of the EU, is anyones guess

This was already answered. Germany has a welfare-system which is basically a restrictec UBI, and there were non-german eu-citizen demanding access to it and went as high as the European Court of Justice.

Result: they have no right to claim social welfare outside their own country. Freedom of movement in EU has limits and you must behave like a proper local citizen (like working there for some time) to get access to other countries systems. And even then benefits are time limited.

Re:Spain is moving to permanently establish universal basic ... by fastball on Tuesday April 07, 2020 @09:51AM (#22803175)
Presumably it would be citizens rather than residents.
Re:Spain is moving to permanently establish universal basic ... by chrisseaton on Tuesday April 07, 2020 @09:54AM (#22803195)
I'm not sure that would be legal, would it?

I think there was a test case in 2015 that said you could have tests that a resident was not there just to claim benefit, but I think the point was that it was illegal to just completely restrict a benefit to your own citizens.

Re:Spain is moving to permanently establish universal basic ... by skywal_l on Tuesday April 07, 2020 @10:01AM (#22803260)
It would probably be modeled the same way as social benefits are modeled. A mixed of citizenship and residency...