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Re:Mysterious heart damage, not just lung troubles, befallin... by carlsborg on Monday April 06, 2020 @10:06AM (#22793798)
There is a paper circulating that claims that the virus impedes red blood cells leading to organ failure including lungs, and not the other way round.
Re:Mysterious heart damage, not just lung troubles, befallin... by wbl on Monday April 06, 2020 @10:29AM (#22794012)
That paper uses computer models of protein interactions not actual ethyrocyte on vero 6 cultured COVID experiment. It's an interesting line of investigation but I want to see more in vitro and ideally in vivo findings supporting that before I believe it.
Re:Mysterious heart damage, not just lung troubles, befallin... by war1025 on Monday April 06, 2020 @12:02PM (#22794844)
It seems super shaky right now, but it's definitely something I'd like to see investigated further.
Re:Mysterious heart damage, not just lung troubles, befallin... by yread on Monday April 06, 2020 @11:01AM (#22794325)
Yeah, it's simulating protein-protein interaction. Very much bleeding edge of research, stuff like this needs biological validation before you should trust it.
Re:Mysterious heart damage, not just lung troubles, befallin... by nanl2053 on Monday April 06, 2020 @10:17AM (#22793892)
Do you have a link?
Re:Mysterious heart damage, not just lung troubles, befallin... by friedegg on Monday April 06, 2020 @10:23AM (#22793950)
https://chemrxiv.org/articles/COVID-19_Disease_ORF8_and_Surf...

Among the speculation is that a blood transfusion may be a viable treatment.

Re:Mysterious heart damage, not just lung troubles, befallin... by war1025 on Monday April 06, 2020 @12:04PM (#22794873)
Re:Mysterious heart damage, not just lung troubles, befallin... by bryanrasmussen on Monday April 06, 2020 @10:10AM (#22793823)
so if it impedes red blood cells does this mean my gout is helping me out?
Re:Mysterious heart damage, not just lung troubles, befallin... by tejtm on Monday April 06, 2020 @01:15PM (#22795583)
Could you explain the gout - bloodcell - lung damage connection to a non clinician? (me)
Re:Mysterious heart damage, not just lung troubles, befallin... by bryanrasmussen on Monday April 06, 2020 @01:34PM (#22795790)
well actually it's only some sorts of gout, caused by Polycythemia Vera https://rarediseases.org/rare-diseases/polycythemia-vera/ "Gout and kidney stone associated with polycythemia vera occur due to the high turnover of red blood cells, which results in higher-than-normal uric acid production." So it overproduces red blood cells, and the parent comment said there was a theory covid-19 was causing a decrease in red blood cell production so I conjured the amusing scenario in my head of the two diseases fighting each other.

An amusing, non-serious, scenario.

Re:Mysterious heart damage, not just lung troubles, befallin... by tejtm on Monday April 06, 2020 @05:17PM (#22797985)
I ask because I was recently doing background checks on a substance to mitigate nitric oxide induced lung damage (produced by damaged cells) which would work by by converting it to urea ... so maybe more than just amusing.

and for you https://monarchinitiative.org/disease/MONDO:0005571