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Re:What Armenians should know about life in America (2014) by cpursley on Saturday April 04, 2020 @11:03AM (#22778612)
As an American now living in Russia (in a region with 30% Armenians), I can confirm this. Our construction quality of our house in the US is trash. It's made out of cheap pine and plywood and has terrible thermal properties. We recently had to replace all the siding because it just rotted off. Meanwhile the places in Russia are smaller, but generally higher quality (which I prefer). Also, many Russians don't take on mortgages and pay for property with cash - which is amazing considering how low salaries are vs the West (they're huge savers - at least the older generations).
Re:What Armenians should know about life in America (2014) by kazen44 on Saturday April 04, 2020 @11:40AM (#22778864)
The legacy of the old soviet systems of tenant housing also should not be understated.

Many people of former soviet nations simply own their appartments/houses and do not have a mortage. Usually these appartments are inhereted

Re:What Armenians should know about life in America (2014) by betaby on Saturday April 04, 2020 @11:46AM (#22778930)
In southern Europe houses are also often inherited. Thus quality of the construction is important.
Re:What Armenians should know about life in America (2014) by cpursley on Saturday April 04, 2020 @12:29PM (#22779288)
This is certainly true.
Re:What Armenians should know about life in America (2014) by djohnston on Saturday April 04, 2020 @11:37AM (#22778849)
the thermal properties of a wood house with insulation is far better than that of a concrete one
Re:What Armenians should know about life in America (2014) by distances on Saturday April 04, 2020 @12:29PM (#22779287)
In general, concrete housing would have insulation. Though depends on the place of course, probably not in the Mediterranean while lots of it and triple glazing in the Nordics.
Re:What Armenians should know about life in America (2014) by the_gipsy on Saturday April 04, 2020 @11:46AM (#22778924)
what about a stone/brick/concrete house with insulation?
Re:What Armenians should know about life in America (2014) by mturmon on Saturday April 04, 2020 @02:02PM (#22780093)
In general, any thermally-conducting path from outside to inside will reduce the insulating value of the wall by a lot. The standard framing method used in American houses is described in basic terms here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Framing_(construction)#Balloon...

(Platform framing is different from balloon framing in some details, but that's not important for our purposes.) The gaps between the vertical "studs" allow insulation to be put in, covering ~90% of the surface area. I forget the details, but there are code and construction-method developments that are working to raise this figure closer to 100%.

The final wall would then be a roughly 7" sandwich. Details vary, but perhaps 1" exterior cladding - stucco, siding, etc., 5.5" of insulation where the frame is, 0.75" of interior wallboard ("drywall"). In older homes, alas, the insulation is thinner than 5.5".

The brick, concrete, concrete-block, and stone construction methods I know about do not allow such a thick layer of insulation. I know there are products available to get higher insulating value in less thickness, thus allowing for 3" of brick + 3" of rigid foam, but of course these are applicable to both methods.

And, as I've tried to clarify, the concrete-block methods I know about have areas where there is a non-insulating path through the concrete.

Perhaps there are other concrete or brick methods that provide significant insulating value, that I'm not aware of, that are realistic for single-family homes?

Re:What Armenians should know about life in America (2014) by the_gipsy on Sunday April 05, 2020 @05:56PM (#22789080)
Reinforced concrete is used mostly in Spain, where I live. Then walls are either traditional bricks, or some plasterboards stuffed with insulation, or an outer layer of thin bricks, insulation, and an inner layer of plaster.

I think we're moving away from bricks because everybody has A/C now. But houses are still "solid", with a concrete skeleton and walls that you can't "punch through", at least the outer walls.